Closed,Shut,Hooded Clubface

[Michael Finney]

Typical profile of a good hacker:
Strong left hand grip, bent left wrist at the top, outside in clubhead path.

Fix:
First fix everything that looks very obviously wrong, e.g. stance is aimed 40 yards open, spine angle vertical at address, head opposite left foot at address, etc. Then flatten left wrist at the top. This should result in hooks and pull hooks, especially if the student knows how to finish swivel properly. Then neutralise grip. Then fix the clubshaft at the top and startdown.

hmmm...where did ya get that stuff from, tong?

was it your own research???......let me see your evidence that this works.....)

[jim_0068]

lower trajectory.

There, i'm being more specific...as i said:

are you sure?

[tongzilla]

hmmm...where did ya get that stuff from, tong?

was it your own research???......let me see your evidence that this works.....)

Just checking you guys are not

[birdie_man]

There, i'm being more specific...as i said:

are you sure?

Well not with a full-roll and/or a more back ball position I guess......

I just find it easier (for now).....esp. for wedges and half wedges.

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BTW I know what you're thinking Jim!

Jim:.....(leakage)...

[jim_0068]

Well not with a full-roll and/or a more back ball position I guess......

I just find it easier (for now).....esp. for wedges and half wedges.

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BTW I know what you're thinking Jim!

Jim:.....(leakage)...

Nope, by defination an angled hinge will fly higher than a horizontal hinge.

So if you find it easier to hit lower wedges with an angled hinge you probably have a delofted club through the ball, little axis tilt, and probably a back ball position. THOSE all facilitate the the lower ball flight than the angled hinge does.

[birdie_man]

Nope, by defination an angled hinge will fly higher than a horizontal hinge.

OK..........if everything else remains equal yes......but not always, every time, no matter what.....

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I said with a "Trevino clubface"....which I always use an Angled Hinge with.....

It generally, and more easily/comfortably (more comfortable for me anyway) flies lower than my other method of clubface control. (no matter what Hinge I use with this other method of clubface control)

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Lots of Axis Tilt BTW.....

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And again....still experimenting (some)......really tho it's closer to fine-tuning than experimenting at this point I think.

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Jim....you have to realize that I mostly only mean for wedges...pitches....etc.

I just favour it (SSA grip...i.e. "matching grip".....+ Single WA with slight Arch) more than SSA + Stanard Wrist Action + w/e Hinge....at this point....

.....again....for short clubs/short shots/some punch shots.

Like I said....maybe if I tinker a bit I can give you a better answer....I haven't golfed much lately man.

[Yoda]

...by definition an angled hinge will fly higher than a horizontal hinge.

Sorry, Jim...t'ain't necessarily so!

Horizontal Hinging has only "one hole in the sky," i.e., the Clubface Closes Only.

Assuming Angled Hinging (some Clubface Layback) or Vertical Hinging (only Clubfaced Layback)...

Pick a hole!

With Angled or Vertical Hinge Action, the further back (Up Plane) you locate the Ball, the lower the Ball Flight. In contrast, the further forward (Down Plane) you locate the Ball, the higher the Ball flight.

So, Horizontal Hinging offers only one trajectory for a given club in a given set of Clubs. In effect, 'one hole' in the sky. Only with Angled or Vertical Hinging can Trajectory -- higher or lower -- be effected.

[jim_0068]

Sorry, Jim...t'ain't necessarily so!

Horizontal Hinging has only "one hole in the sky," i.e., the Clubface Closes Only.

Assuming Angled Hinging (some Clubface Layback) or Vertical Hinging (only Clubfaced Layback)...

Pick a hole!

With Angled or Vertical Hinge Action, the further back (Up Plane) you locate the Ball, the lower the Ball Flight. In contrast, the further forward (Down Plane) you locate the Ball, the higher the Ball flight.

So, Horizontal Hinging offers only one trajectory for a given club in a given set of Clubs. In effect, 'one hole' in the sky. Only with Angled or Vertical Hinging can Trajectory -- higher or lower -- be effected.

Excussssse me for not saying "all things being equal."

And you just proved my point...

with Angled or Vertical Hinge Action, the further back (Up Plane) you locate the Ball, the lower the Ball Flight.

[tongzilla]

For those who are still incubating, consider this:

When using Horizontal Hinging, Clubface loft will stay the same from Impact to Low Point even though there is forward lean of the Clubshaft at Impact, and no forward lean at Low Point.

[tongzilla]

Yoda, does Angled Hinging produce more backspin than Horizontal Hinging? Angled Hinging has a Layback motion which adds backspin, but also has Compression Leakage unlike Horizontal Hinging which reduces backspin.