Tommy Tomasello -- The Downstroke Motion

[MizunoJoe]

He starts out OK with zeroing out wristcock and #3 accum while HITTING some punch shots. It's all downhill from there. It's one thing to give the bad advice of throwing the club down from the top with the arms(#4 throwaway), but to do it along with wristcock throwaway makes it even worse.

Anyone who takes this advice will have to overaccelerate the left wrist to keep the left wrist flat and avoid flipping. Without a hip slide preceding the arm movement, the player will constantly be on the edge of hitting fat.

It sounds as if he had been listening to Jimmy "No Angles" Ballard when he makes his "anti-drag" comments and says it leads to hitting the ball to the right. And also it sounds as if he had been listening to Croker.

[Thom]

I thought he was talking about uncocking the right forearm, but I need to look at it again. If he actually said so I am sure his mind was somewhere else. Maybe in his hands...

I watched it again, he is talking about uncocking the right wrist (app. 14 min. into the video), and about uncocking both wrists, but it might be explaining what golfers do wrong. It's a little unclear. I might have mixed it with the motion he is doing all the time, where it looks like he is throwing the right hand out and at the same time uncocking the right wrist.

Anyway it makes a lot of sence this swing, and I'm definitely going to experiment with it. I'm a converted hitter ( hitting all shots from putter to driver these days) but some days it seems like I mix old swinging habits into it, messing it up bad. Right hand swinging might be the answer especially with the longer clubs.

[Delaware Golf]

He starts out OK with zeroing out wristcock and #3 accum while HITTING some punch shots. It's all downhill from there. It's one thing to give the bad advice of throwing the club down from the top with the arms(#4 throwaway), but to do it along with wristcock throwaway makes it even worse.

Anyone who takes this advice will have to overaccelerate the left wrist to keep the left wrist flat and avoid flipping. Without a hip slide preceding the arm movement, the player will constantly be on the edge of hitting fat.

It sounds as if he had been listening to Jimmy "No Angles" Ballard when he makes his "anti-drag" comments and says it leads to hitting the ball to the right. And also it sounds as if he had been listening to Croker.

Joe,

The full swings that Tomasello takes at the ball after the short shots are downhill....hmmmm. I think I would watch the video again...

I truly believe the golf swings that Tomasello takes in the Australia video are the same motion in this latest video from his studio in 1992. Why...it's the finish...the throw from the top at the beginning of the downswing produces a very controlled finish...I'm producing the same finish now, that was the big revelation once I started to use this exact motion....checkout Tomasello's Australia video then checkout out Jodie Mudd's swing...both have identical finishes...

I don't remember Peter Croker ever mentioning using the MAGIC OF THE RIGHT FOREARM in his book or the video I have (The HIT basics)...

DG

[SwingNorthtoSouth]

The Director of golf at the Bethpage course once said that Ballard ruined more golf swings in the 80's when he was popular........FWIW.............

[MizunoJoe]

The Director of golf at the Bethpage course once said that Ballard ruined more golf swings in the 80's when he was popular........FWIW.............

He was also doing that in OK in the mid-80s and I've got my lesson tape to prove it!

[Delaware Golf]

I watched it again, he is talking about uncocking the right wrist (app. 14 min. into the video), and about uncocking both wrists, but it might be explaining what golfers do wrong. It's a little unclear. I might have mixed it with the motion he is doing all the time, where it looks like he is throwing the right hand out and at the same time uncocking the right wrist.

Anyway it makes a lot of sence this swing, and I'm definitely going to experiment with it. I'm a converted hitter ( hitting all shots from putter to driver these days) but some days it seems like I mix old swinging habits into it, messing it up bad. Right hand swinging might be the answer especially with the longer clubs.

Thom,

On cassette tape from my 3 day school with Tomasello...I have Tommy saying the right wrist remains level throughout the swing...however, it's interesting...in section 2-P last paragraph Homer says....Centrifugal Force alone Uncocks the Swinger's Wrists...I believe I have Tomasello on tape saying centrifugal force is responsible for uncocking the left wrist in the downswing eventhough he is using the right forearm to uncock the right elbow.

DG

[jim_0068]

What many of you are missing is that Tommy is trying to show what REALLY happens and what the "FEEL" may be from HIS VIEW.

Watch the video again and he says it should "feel" "this way" but on "video it will be this way."

He's teaching TGM at its finest!

He's showing you the mechanics, then he's trying to show you the feel, then he demonstrates it.

Sometimes things aren't always spelled out for you, you have to read between the lines a little

[Yoda]

Thanks, Guys. Keep 'cussing and discussin'!

Obviously, there is a great deal of interest in what Tommy, one of the early influential figures in The Golfing Machine®, had to say about the Golf Stroke. And there is no doubt that he influenced at least two very large figures in golf -- Jodie Mudd, the Player and Davis Love, Jr., the Teacher. To that end, we have for you an encore presentation...

Bagger?

[rchang72]

OK, I didn't get this part. What does he mean by "swing the clubhead in front of the left side?"

[Delaware Golf]

Thanks, Guys. Keep 'cussing and discussin'!

Obviously, there is a great deal of interest in what Tommy, one of the early influential figures in The Golfing Machine®, had to say about the Golf Stroke. And there is no doubt that he influenced at least two very large figures in golf -- Jodie Mudd, the Player and Davis Love, Jr., the Teacher. To that end, we have for you an encore presentation...

Bagger?

Hmmmmm.....another Tomasello video in the vault!!!

DG