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Old 01-18-2011, 06:32 AM
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Is Right Arm Thrust a SLOW motion?
I am a Swinger. But I want to learn how to hit.

Unfortunately, I find that not at all easy to do.

When I am Swinging, I have a nice Pivot, my mind is in my Hands and my Pivot does all the work (as Ben Doyle likes to say). Beautiful.

But when I am trying to hit, a voice inside me says: "Hit the ball hard with your right arm." When I listen to that voice, my mind is no longer in my Hands. It is in my Right Arm. My Right Arm moves fast, even violently. And my Pivot on the Downstroke is poor. The stroke feels somewhat powerful, I guess, very Right Arm. Like a lot of hard work. It does not feel controlled. Awful.

Now, 10-19-A says that for Drive Loading you should have a slow Startdown and that Clubhead Throwaway with Drive Loading is usually due to over-acceleration.

When I try to thrust my Right Arm in a SLOW, deliberate manner (consciously trying not to exceed the RPM of the Pivot), I can have my mind in my hands again and I am able to perform a nice Pivot even with Drive Loading. But that stroke does not feel powerful to me. I does not feel like "firing" the Right Arm at the ball. It is more like a heavy, steady force. The clubhead moving through space does not WHOOSH. The clubhead moves in complete silence to Impact. No noise that I would associate with velocity.

Is this how Hitting is supposed to be? A slow, deliberate right arm thrust (even through Impact) with a silent clubhead?

And where does the Power in Hitting come from? The Pivot? Or the Right Arm?
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:02 AM
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I am a Swinger. But I want to learn how to hit.

Unfortunately, I find that not at all easy to do.

When I am Swinging, I have a nice Pivot, my mind is in my Hands and my Pivot does all the work (as Ben Doyle likes to say). Beautiful.

But when I am trying to hit, a voice inside me says: "Hit the ball hard with your right arm." When I listen to that voice, my mind is no longer in my Hands. It is in my Right Arm. My Right Arm moves fast, even violently. And my Pivot on the Downstroke is poor. The stroke feels somewhat powerful, I guess, very Right Arm. Like a lot of hard work. It does not feel controlled. Awful.

Now, 10-19-A says that for Drive Loading you should have a slow Startdown and that Clubhead Throwaway with Drive Loading is usually due to over-acceleration.

When I try to thrust my Right Arm in a SLOW, deliberate manner (consciously trying not to exceed the RPM of the Pivot), I can have my mind in my hands again and I am able to perform a nice Pivot even with Drive Loading. But that stroke does not feel powerful to me. I does not feel like "firing" the Right Arm at the ball. It is more like a heavy, steady force. The clubhead moving through space does not WHOOSH. The clubhead moves in complete silence to Impact. No noise that I would associate with velocity.

Is this how Hitting is supposed to be? A slow, deliberate right arm thrust (even through Impact) with a silent clubhead?

And where does the Power in Hitting come from? The Pivot? Or the Right Arm?
might the problem be coming from thrusting too soon ? might you be running out of right arm before impact & losing the lag pressure in pp3 ?
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Old 01-18-2011, 10:33 PM
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Where's your head at man (said in a pretend doper's voice)?
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I am a Swinger. But I want to learn how to hit.

Unfortunately, I find that not at all easy to do.

When I am Swinging, I have a nice Pivot, my mind is in my Hands and my Pivot does all the work (as Ben Doyle likes to say). Beautiful.

But when I am trying to hit, a voice inside me says: "Hit the ball hard with your right arm." When I listen to that voice, my mind is no longer in my Hands. It is in my Right Arm. My Right Arm moves fast, even violently. And my Pivot on the Downstroke is poor. The stroke feels somewhat powerful, I guess, very Right Arm. Like a lot of hard work. It does not feel controlled. Awful.

Now, 10-19-A says that for Drive Loading you should have a slow Startdown and that Clubhead Throwaway with Drive Loading is usually due to over-acceleration.

When I try to thrust my Right Arm in a SLOW, deliberate manner (consciously trying not to exceed the RPM of the Pivot), I can have my mind in my hands again and I am able to perform a nice Pivot even with Drive Loading. But that stroke does not feel powerful to me. I does not feel like "firing" the Right Arm at the ball. It is more like a heavy, steady force. The clubhead moving through space does not WHOOSH. The clubhead moves in complete silence to Impact. No noise that I would associate with velocity.

Is this how Hitting is supposed to be? A slow, deliberate right arm thrust (even through Impact) with a silent clubhead?

And where does the Power in Hitting come from? The Pivot? Or the Right Arm?
Hitters need to establish a Stationary Head at Impact Fix and leave the head there. And, Hitters (based on watching Lynn's many videos) set up Hula -Left (weight on the left side), Right Forearm Takeaway with Extensor Action keeps the Power Package united while the head is stationary.

Slowly tilt your axis back to trigger the Hit. Try not moving your arms and hands and leading with your tilt. There must be a distance between your Tilt and Hands for a Lag to be created then maintained.

And I just learned this stuff this week so if I'm wrong, remember, I am not Lynn, nor Daryl, or OB, or an admin nor a pro contributor.


Here is a great video!




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. . . so if I'm wrong, remember, I am not Lynn, nor Daryl, or OB, or an admin nor a pro contributor.
But . . .

Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?

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But . . .

Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?

KevCarter is a humble guy and a good PGA teaching Pro. He reserves the right to be wrong. I like that example.

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KevCarter is a humble guy and a good PGA teaching Pro. He reserves the right to be wrong. I like that example.

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Hope you didn't take my post personally, ICT. I was picking up on the tone -- "less than expert" -- of your own.



All of us start golf as a beginner. Most of us remain a beginner. We decide -- consciously or otherwise -- that "Hey, this is not for me" and walk away. Wonderful! Carpe diem and best of luck on your new adventures.



Others hang around and just "have fun". That's the purpose, right? After all, golf ain't "world peace"! Those who can keep it on that level -- little effort, little result, lots of fun -- enjoy a pleasant recreational experience. (At least so I'm told. )



And then there's the rest of us.



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Originally Posted by Yoda

Hope you didn't take my post personally, ICT. I was picking up on the tone -- "less than expert" -- of your own.


All of us start golf as a beginner. Most of us remain a beginner. We decide -- consciously or otherwise -- that "Hey, this is not for me" and walk away. Wonderful! Carpe diem and best of luck on your new adventures.

Others hang around and just "have fun". That's the purpose, right? After all, golf ain't "world peace"! Those who can keep it on that level -- little effort, little result, lots of fun -- enjoy a pleasant recreational experience. (At least so I'm told. )

And then there's the rest of us.
Lynn, I was pleased that there were no glaring mistakes pointed out by my superiors. As for my lowly status, better to be a gatekeeper in the Kingdom than seated at the first table in the bad place. The old Renaissance formula for something of value was "light and heat" meaning instruction with amiable feelings. That's my goal. Like you, I am mystified when people slam HK or another instructor rather than deal with what they actually taught or wrote or at least ask questions.

If I was afraid of being publicly corrected on any subject, I would not wander out in public. That also confuses me about HK's critics. They want to play in the middle of a busy street and not get interrupted by heavy traffic, or they then get upset.

They are over-indulged children.


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