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I think 7-2 said it, in words, about as well as possible. Note-only hitters rotate their grip- TURN THE HANDS TO A NEW POSITION ON THE GRIP. It must be assumked that the hitter is using angled hinge and the swinger4 is using horizontal hinge.
If the ball is moved back , the hitter will hood the clubface to maintain a square leading edge, a draw will result, and if the ball is moved forward the hitter will lay back the clubface to square the leading edge. and a fade i s result. rotate the grip to do this.
The swinger , with horizontal hinge, when the ball moves back it opens the clubface3. Just rotate the plane line to conform to clubface alignment an fade. move ball forward, rotate the plane line to match the leading edge and a draw will result.
Do not move your stance in hitting procedure. the hitter can take a normal address , move the ball back/forward then rotate their grip. The swinger can take normal stance, then open or close their stance which will have the same effect as moving the ball back/forward and will accomplish the plane line rotation at same time.The swinger does move


HB

Nice .

Isnt it more correctly Hitters and Hand Manipulated Swingers ? Meaning just about everybody except the True Swinger ... those for whom CF [U]alone[/u] squares the clubface by definition?

The answer to this question doesnt matter in regard to the geometry at hand .... if when you position your ball "back in your stance" which we now see as being BACK , IN , UP (thank you D) along the golfers view of the circle , THE ARC OF APPROACH you also rotate the face square to the Target Line , Impact Plane Line you have effected GRIP ROTATION according to Homerian definition. (interject please anyone who wants to redefine). Draw shot resulting but in accordance to the amount of OUT associated with path of the clubhead ..... the distance between the IMpact Plane Line and the Low Point Plane Line on the Basic Horizontal Plane given plane angle. And loft etc.

Still talking theoretically here looking at the circle diagrams.

This may seem weird . What about grip spines aligned at 6:00 o'clock on the shaft wouldnt grip rotation move these spines counter clockwise in the hands ? (yes) And is a six iron really designed to be played at Low Point? Homer said no! Enter Hook Face , enter confusion and differences of opinion perhaps ... tbd. I see two schools of thought , perhaps both co existing ... Maybe we dont need to go there ? We could just stick to DIVERGENCE BETWEEN FACE ANGLE AND PATH . Thats the basic basic to common speak "side spin". Uhhh Homer never said "side spin" he referred to it as "tilted backspin" (no caps) .... the ball can only spin around one axis I believe.

Closing in on draw shot tendencies for balls played back in the stance and a sketch there of from the players unique perspective and in accordance to plane angle considerations. A useful visual for the golfer in shot shape training.