LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Eldrick Picture..good?bad? depends? Thread: Eldrick Picture..good?bad? depends? View Single Post #215 01-30-2012, 10:49 AM 12 piece bucket Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Thomasville, NC Posts: 4,380 Originally Posted by O.B.Left Of the ten trillion usable component patterns alluded to Homer outlined only two in the later editions of the book. He chose brevity for obvious reasons. Two uncompensated basic procedures. In the various audio tapes however he covers more ground. Much more ground , given the questions of his students and what he termed the "mysterious vagueness about the differences between Hitting and Swinging". Hitting and Swinging are not defined by Hinge Action , or Startup procedure or to the discussion at hand , Startdown procedure. They are defined by their respective physics in Release . Only. Simply put you can Push or you can Pull in Release but do not attempt do both, they are incompatible. You can Pull in Startdown and then Push in Release. To your request: For book reference on Pivot Power used in combination with Right Triceps Hitting . See 2-M-4 BODY POWER . Homer wasn't a big fan of it he being a proponent of the uncompensated swing. 10-19-C in combo with a right arm throw 10-20-B does requires compensations. But they are not incompatible , mutually exclusive .... like Simultaneous and Sequenced Release for instance. If there is such a thing as "switting" this would be a good example , the attempted use of mutually exclusive components . Not trying to be a dingdong on this .... you gave me 2-M-4.... 2-M-4 BODY POWER Inertia can hold the Left Arm against the chest while the Body Turn is accelerating it and Momentum can then sustain it and come out with the Feel of Left Arm Power. See 2-K. To clear the fog, consider Pivot Thrust as Body Power blasting the Swinger’s essentially inert Left Arm into orbit toward Impact. Or, as supplying the initial acceleration of the Hitters loaded Power Package so the Clubhead can be endowed with Pivot Speed PLUS Right Triceps Speed. Study 6-B-4, 6-C-0, and 7-12 in this connection.This don't distinguish much for me..... It don't tell you HOW...the key word is "OR"....does the "OR" cause an inference to be drawn that the pivots for Hitting vs. Swinging are DIFFERENT? Or the same? If they are different then HOW? You are also telling me that Hitting and Swinging are defined (sounds almost exclusively to me) by the "physics employed during release"....that sounds good but what does that mean and what does it look like? What components are different? Does the sweetspot necessarily move different? If so how? Homer seems to define the distinguishing characteristics of the procedures in 6-H-(E&F)....some seem pretty much mutually exclusive in my mind.... E. Associate the following with “Hitting” (10-19-A). See 7-19. 1. Angled Hinging (7-10) 2. Simultaneous Release (4-D-0) 3. Grip Rotation (7-2) 4. Single Wrist Action (10-18-C-2) 5. Active Right Elbow (7-20) 6. Fixed Lag Pressure Point (“10-11-0-3”) 7. Radial Acceleration (10-19-A) 8. Axe Handle Technique (6-F) 9. Slow Start Down (6-B-1) 10. Angle of Approach (2-J-3) F. Associate the following with “Swing” (10-19-C). See 7-19. 1. Horizontal Hinging (7-10) 2. Sequenced Release (4-D-0) 3. Plane Line Rotation (7-2) 4. Standard Wrist Action (10-18-A) 5. Active Left Wrist (7-20) 6. Rotating Lag pressure point (10-11-0-3) 7. Longitudinal Accerlation (10-19-C) 8. Rope Handle Technique (6-F) 9. Quick Start Down (10-23-C) 10. Arc of approach (2-J-3 __________________ Aloha Mr. Hand Behold my hands; reach hither thy hand 12 piece bucket View Public Profile Send a private message to 12 piece bucket Find all posts by 12 piece bucket