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back story to this post...I would like to thank 12piecebucket! if it were not for his posts on golfwrx and an experience with a morad instructor who deemed the golfing machine too complex, i would have never found the golfing machine and my golf game would still be in disarray. I would forever be searching for answers that were in the yellow book all along....

12piecebucket's pictures of tiger woods and david toms reminded me of this thread and david toms' particular case.

Obvious Hitter -- Kenny Perry

Stealth Hitter -- David Toms

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Obvious Swinger -- Sergio Garcia

Stealth Swinger -- Steve Stricker

one day prior to any knowledge of TGM, I was reading an online post with pictures of andy plummer and mike bennett, I had no interest in attempting this--at the time--current swing fad "stack n' tilt" but was curious as to the theory and application behind the methodology. When looking at the pictures i noticed something i had never heard mentioned before in any golf publication. When i looked at my swing, my elbow was in front of my hip whereas(either plummer or bennett I don't remember who) was executing what i now know as push elbow. I looked at this difference of elbow positions and something went off in my head, i began to look at different players and noticed different elbow positions. This is what at first, lead me to the golfing machine. In researching these elbow positions (and forearm positions) i noticed something especially unusual about david toms' right forearm at impact. it was much more bent at impact than others. It was pointing beyond the plane line....

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in this picture, david toms' right forearm is not in line with the clubshaft. The clubshaft is not being supported by the driving right arm, instead appears to be passively pulled through impact from a punch position. This is possible by a fully uncocked left wrist, a drop of the head in the downstroke, the preserving of the near fully bent right arm deep into the downstroke via the pivot--even up to impact, until the right arm is finally pulled through impact by the left arm as the pivot continues to turn, causing late extension of the arms. Like an accordion, that right arm bends and extends but with its effortless checkrein action. In toms' case, he does not rely on a driving right arm for power, he relies on the extremely late release of the arms and the flat left wrist being pulled through impact by the body power of the pivot train. Toms is not the only one with this move, older videos and pictures of hunter mahan had very similar moves and the same appearance of the forearm pointing beyond the plane line, drop of the head, very late extension of the arms and a pivot, that like the energizer bunny, just keeps on going.



aside from that explanation, here is my reasoning. If the right arm is that bent at impact and pointing beyond the plane line i do not think it is possible to drive with the right arm because when you attempt to drive the right arm it straightens in a straight line and when the shaft is not in line with the right forearm at impact it cannot be supported by it and if driven, would drive the club WELL outside the ball and plane. If you try to make a manipulative drive to keep it on a plane even if the pivot is perfectly timed to accomodate this... you automatically induce a guiding, pulling of the right arm by the left arm. the right tricep which extends the right arm in a straight line, is the muscle which powers the active #1 accumulator for the hitter. To me this would be an impossibility for toms....

of course only david toms can know

Centrifugal Body Momentum Throw-Out Action (Swinger) versus Muscular Right Triceps Drive-Out Action (Hitter).