[tim chapman]

Mike O. knows too I bet. Maybe different takes on it ... Come on guys...we all want to automate our pivots like those wood chopper dudes.
What the best way to fix your pivot? Work on your pivot or work on....something else, your intentions maybe? Which is all about the hands, direction of force ......chopin wood?

i think one thing OB is that they have no choice, swinging those things with that kind of force requires the body to get involved, the arms couldn't do it on their own - not so with golf we can have a predominatly arms-swing without the body bringing too much to the party