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"The Hammer" // At first I thought he was Hitting because of that weird backswing and Single Wrist Action. But then.....

His real Secret: 10-18-C #1, Horizontal Hinge Paddle-wheel Motion on the TSP. Swinger.

Maybe his strength reduces Impact Deceleration? Although he Spins fast.

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QUOTE # 1

Hogan's stance
I noticed Hogan had a closed stance. What I couldn't tell was how he aligned his shoulders to the target line.

I hit some balls on the range with a similar stance and actually played a round of golf that way today. I kept my shoulders square, but pulled the right foot back similar to what he does in this video.

Having the right foot back seemed to make it really easy to take the club back on an inside and flat plane....which seems to feel most natural to me. To my surprise, I did not hit a bunch of hooks, in fact I think I only hit one hook and it was purely from flipping my hands at the bottom.

I'm just curious about the geometric reasons for why this set-up produced a ton of good shots for me today. I don't think I was making any compensations....just taking it back insided and flat and trying to come down on the same plane.

#28
03-12-2005, 08:44 PM

QUOTE # 2

Martee
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Re: Hogan's stance
Originally Posted by Trigolt
I noticed Hogan had a closed stance. What I couldn't tell was how he aligned his shoulders to the target line.

I hit some balls on the range with a similar stance and actually played a round of golf that way today. I kept my shoulders square, but pulled the right foot back similar to what he does in this video.

Having the right foot back seemed to make it really easy to take the club back on an inside and flat plane....which seems to feel most natural to me. To my surprise, I did not hit a bunch of hooks, in fact I think I only hit one hook and it was purely from flipping my hands at the bottom.

I'm just curious about the geometric reasons for why this set-up produced a ton of good shots for me today. I don't think I was making any compensations....just taking it back insided and flat and trying to come down on the same plane.
Stance Line does not effect Plane or Target Line. (2-J-2)
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#29
03-12-2005, 08:50 PM

QUOTE # 3

Yoda
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The Closed Stance And The Right Hip / Right Elbow Conflict
Originally Posted by Trigolt
I noticed Hogan had a closed stance. I'm just curious about the geometric reasons for why this set-up produced a ton of good shots for me today. I don't think I was making any compensations....just taking it back insided and flat and trying to come down on the same plane.
Simply put, the Closed Stance with its automatic Short Pivot (10-12-B) produces a free Backstroke Turn (albeit with a restricted Follow-Through). This makes it easier to Clear the Right Hip in the Backstroke.

Failure to Clear the Right Hip during Start Up produces a Right Elbow-Right Hip conflict and is a problem epidemic in the Golf World. The Hands resolve this conflict without fanfare simply by going around the Hip. Unfortunately, that means you are now above Plane and must re-route the Club at some point to return correctly to the Ball. Most offenders never make it.

Hence, Homer included 'Clear Right Hip' as an important checkpoint in his Mechanical Checklist For All Strokes (12-3 #13).

Yoda

END OF 3 QUOTES AND MY CONCLUSION

So then, as you have pointed out to me several times Daryl (and thanks, again) my sense of the ease of staying on plane with a closed stance is not imagined and due to a solid bio-mechanical reason. The "Hammer Man" must have hit himself in the head with a yellow book and a hammer several times! And, for older and or newer golf students and women, an easier, effective swing might include Standard Address with closed stance, FLW,FBRW, EA, RFT...

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