[airair]

In this instance, you club face needs to be square to the line of flight, not your plane line. I assume that you are speaking of iron shots, where you hit the ball before low point. If the face is square to the plane line traced on the ground, you will get a pull, probably a pull hook. In any case, you have to square the face up more than you have been in order to eliminate the fade/slice.

I am by no means an expert and am speaking from my experience. I play with an open plane line and hit the ball straight when I get my face squared to the target line (not the plane line), and hit fade/slices or pulls when I don't. Another fault of mine is to allow my head to move forward in the swing resulting in a plane line that is even more to the left than I intended and moves everything forward. That will also keep me from squaring the club face as needed, resulting in either weak fades or pulls.

I probably have the same problems as you mention here (and some more). Yes,it is mostly with irons, but I have a couple of shots with a 2 hybrid that were "wonderful" allthough the divot said otherwise.