LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Was Nicklaus off plane? Thread: Was Nicklaus off plane? View Single Post #9 05-30-2010, 01:14 PM O.B.Left Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,433 Originally Posted by gmbtempe Follow up question on planes. You are correct, if I draw a plane line from the ball to the TSP at that same picture my hands are right on the line, in fact my hands follow the line from downstroke start to just after impact where they move inside the line. The club is slightly under the line. Is this on plane using the hands as the guide or is there a potential issue because the clubhead travels inside that line? That sounds really, really good, simple , easy to repeat. No shift of Plane Angles going down anyways. Meaning you are probably "Single Shift" (on the backswing Im guessing , although you could be zero shift too but its a rarity see 10-6-B you'd need those high hands and clubshaft to be zero shift). Anyways you're using the TSP! Which has tremendous advantages like being able to Startdown with your Right Shoulder and have it take the Hands Down Plane!!!! Hello 6-M-1 Downswing Sequence without needing to drop your Hands to a Lower Plane first. Its the Right Shoulder that takes the Bent Right Arm , the fully loaded Right Elbow for the Hitter down to its Release Point! There is no other way! Think about it. But the Right Shoulder must travel Down Plane. See 10-13-A Standard Shoulder Turn after you digest the TSP. Thanks to Yoda I now think about the business of the Backswing as being an effort to get the Hands and the Right Shoulder on the TSP at Top. They dont start out that way , together on that Plane at Address, they travel different paths to get there assuming a Right Forearm Takeaway. But that is the goal at Top! Cant do it with a Shoulder Turn Takeaway! You need to have your mind in your Hands. As for the under plane stuff after impact........it could be camera angle, it could be real. If its real, your divots probably point to the left. Last edited by O.B.Left : 05-30-2010 at 01:34 PM. O.B.Left View Public Profile Send a private message to O.B.Left Find all posts by O.B.Left