[Mike O]

[quote=Mathew;50443]
Let me ask some very simple easy questions - Forget your 7 example - Just take the primary lever assembly and forget everything else....
The question is does the left shoulder move upwards from impact and through low point? - Yes that is a fact. YES - I agree. Let me add that I'd say in most players the left shoulder would move upwards when the hands are a little below hip high on the downswing. So the clubhead could be or probably hasn't dropped below hip high on the downswing at the start of the left shoulder moving up.
Since the left shoulder moving upwards does this mean the whole primary lever assembly is also moving upwards? - Yes- this is a fact. NO- I don't see it that way- see my understanding above. But if we keep discussing this I should be able to understand your point or you mine.
Since the whole primary lever assembly moves upwards and the clubhead is a part of the primary lever assembly - does this move the clubhead upwards too? - Yes this is a fact. NO- Again I don't see that but hopefully with my answers here - we can get to "common ground".

Since the left shoulder is continually moving upwards mean that this effect is only going to make the clubhead orbit have its lowest point prior to the point it passes the left shoulder when viewed directly from the front - Yes , Yes, YES.... NO- That's why I thought the "7" example was a good one to show my perspective. Also, If you are saying that when the left shoulder moves upward that the clubhead moves upward- then I'd say that with that logic - then the clubhead would need to start moving upward when it was halfway down - on the downswing.
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Matthew,
See my comments above. Let me know what you think.

And why is it that no one thinks I'm funny? Gotcha- Cause I'm not! Well that's not going to stop me from harassing UPP and Bucket!!