[spike]

Thanks for that neil.

Had a student the other day who, when trying to do a takeaway with "back" as the first move, his right arm would separate from his chest and couldn't load his wrist very well. So, I changed the wording to in/back to where he would then turn his left hand as the first move. This bent his right hand and kept his arm connected.

Thought is was interesting how words in a different order could make such a great difference. Kinda fun.