LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Analysis Thread: Analysis View Single Post #13 06-08-2006, 09:53 PM Martee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lenoir, NC Posts: 573 Originally Posted by golfbulldog Do you think the term "plane shift" is apt when what most /all people do ( including Leadbetter - hence your X classification) is a "plane drift"? Plane angle can readily be defined at 4 points in all swings. 1. Address 2. Left arm horizontal to ground 3. Top/end of backstroke 4. Impact plus maybe Follow through/ both arms straight. Most golfers ( I would argue all golfers) drift planes between these positions. During drift the butt/end of club rarely points at target line unless the drift happens rapidly around clubshaft horizontal ( and therefore ideally parallel to plane line). Leadbetter people basically are double shifters - categorised by their address / impact location and top/end of backstroke positions. They may drift a bit more than others off TGM plane at left arm horizontal but 90 % of people drift not shift! Why the left arm horizontal as a definition point? If we are talking about the club being on plane, I would have expected the definition points, a more universal set, would be the club, not the left arm.... __________________ Good Golfing Martee Martee View Public Profile Send a private message to Martee Visit Martee's homepage! Find all posts by Martee