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HungryBear 11-05-2010 01:11 PM

Hogan and EA
 
Did Ben Hogan Use Extensor Action?

Where did he write about his application of Extensor Action, if he did use it?

HB

mb6606 11-05-2010 06:24 PM

Hogan wrote about keeping one arm extended in the swing at all times in 5 Easy lessons.

HungryBear 11-06-2010 08:04 PM

Yes-BUT...
 
After consideration- I do believe that Hogan had alignment elements that produced ALL the transcribed elements (1-4) of 6-B-1-D but I also believe that Hogan would have described the feel and alignments in a "different" way. That does not necessarily make either feel superior only different. And TGM provides, in fact encourages , such individuality.

HB

BerntR 11-08-2010 10:29 AM

Hogan said that he wished he had three right hands. I believe there were some right sided drive loading going on.

Which is a bit similar to extencior action except that it is active and not just structural support.

Daryl 11-08-2010 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BerntR (Post 78176)
Hogan said that he wished he had three right hands. I believe there were some right sided drive loading going on.

Which is a bit similar to extencior action except that it is active and not just structural support.

Has anyone found any statement by Hogan that refers to what he meant by 3 right hands? If the Pivot Drives the Right Forearm and the Right Hand Drags the Club, would someone say that they want 3 right hands. What if you were pulling a heavy cart?

My #3 Pressure Point, on occasion, returns to the aft side of the shaft. When that lucky moment happens, I too would like 3 right hands. It "Feels" like my right hand was going along ok, and then suddenly went under-water. It's additional resistance to overcome. It's like my right hand is slicing through the water with a right hand Karate chop, and then, when my Right Hand rotates and faces down the Angle of Approach, it's like trying to "Push" an open palm directly against the water.

I don't know; I'm thinking again. :)

Quitesure 11-08-2010 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 78179)
Has anyone found any statement by Hogan that refers to what he meant by 3 right hands? If the Pivot Drives the Right Forearm and the Right Hand Drags the Club, would someone say that they want 3 right hands. What if you were pulling a heavy cart?

My #3 Pressure Point, on occasion, returns to the aft side of the shaft. When that lucky moment happens, I too would like 3 right hands. It "Feels" like my right hand was going along ok, and then suddenly went under-water. It's additional resistance to overcome. It's like my right hand is slicing through the water with a right hand Karate chop, and then, when my Right Hand rotates and faces down the Angle of Approach, it's like trying to "Push" an open palm directly against the water.

I don't know; I'm thinking again. :)

Now I'm hopelessly confused. Isn't the #3 pp ALWAYS supposed to be on the aft side of the shaft?:confused1

HungryBear 11-08-2010 01:46 PM

My thinking fwiw
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 78179)
Has anyone found any statement by Hogan that refers to what he meant by 3 right hands? If the Pivot Drives the Right Forearm and the Right Hand Drags the Club, would someone say that they want 3 right hands. What if you were pulling a heavy cart?

My #3 Pressure Point, on occasion, returns to the aft side of the shaft. When that lucky moment happens, I too would like 3 right hands. It "Feels" like my right hand was going along ok, and then suddenly went under-water. It's additional resistance to overcome. It's like my right hand is slicing through the water with a right hand Karate chop, and then, when my Right Hand rotates and faces down the Angle of Approach, it's like trying to "Push" an open palm directly against the water.

I don't know; I'm thinking again. :)

I think (that qualifies my comment) that Hogan talks about this where he mentiones the "two handed basketball throw"-AND- trying to break the bulls eye. like "drag the wet mop". I am more and more convinced that #3 pp is ONLY for sensing. IT NEVER moves the lever assembly. If #3 pressure gets to high (a pressure) it is due to poor release. When the impact bag is used- Hold against the bag- not push the club head against the bag but hold your lever assembly against the bag- ALL the way down to your feet.

None of this is Hogans EA

Again - just my feel

HB

Daryl 11-08-2010 02:10 PM

I'm saying that my hands slow because of Throw-out. I don't always have that amount of precision. But when I do, the Hand slows and I'm forced to push a little. I'm not pushing against the #3 PP. I feel the Slowdown with my Right Hand. I'm pushing with the Palm of the Right Hand to resist the Slow-down.

HungryBear 11-08-2010 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 78183)
I'm saying that my hands slow because of Throw-out. I don't always have that amount of precision. But when I do, the Hand slows and I'm forced to push a little. I'm not pushing against the #3 PP. I feel the Slowdown with my Right Hand. I'm pushing with the Palm of the Right Hand to resist the Slow-down.

I think (AGAIN just me thinking) that is exactly it. the trying to keep hands moving. I think that is why Hogan wanted more hands



HB

Daryl 11-08-2010 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungryBear (Post 78184)
I think (AGAIN just me thinking) that is exactly it. the trying to keep hands moving. I think that is why Hogan wanted more hands



HB

Then we're on the same page. :notworthy I hope it's the right one. :thumleft:


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