"AWESOME experience in South FL" with Dan Malizia
 

Hi all I have to post about today's lesson with Dan Malizia...

This PRO knows THE MACHINE!

A phone conversation with Lynn the other night sent me on my way to seek again:golfcart: :golfcart: :golfcart:

Dan's history working with MAC stirred my quest. There is nothing more stimulating than to learn more and Dan gave me a tripple dose of Knowlege followed by practical application and produced the must reliable baby push draws ever. The ball never crossed the center line.

I am off to play another event and of August and this time I will land all greens with a repetable and predictable shot pattern.

If you have the chance...take it and go meet
Dan Malizia LBC Master
this trip scored for the records.

Thanks Lynn for telling me to go and Thanks Dan for sharing your wealth of knowlege.

Cathy Schmidt:golfer2:

Nice to hear from you Cathy. How'd you adjust your Machine to hit the draw that starts to the right and curves to the target?

Two For the Road
 

Thanks for this summary, Cathy. So proud to have both you and Dan on the Lynn Blake Certified Instructor team.

:salut:

OB:

Cathy and I set up the machine as follows:

1. Ball 4 inches behind low point. This allows the
path to be moving downplane but outward at impact.

2. The clubface was aimed slightly to the right (open)
of the target at separation, accounting for the ball's initial direction (slightly
to the right).

The clubface,however, was slightly closed to the path. This produced the draw spin.

Thanks Dan .

This is the stuff that I wish we talked about more often. There are options.

Great stuff

ob

Right on!
 

I agree OB. This is stuff that interests me-practical applications are my speed rather than theoretical.

Heaven's Gate
 

:sunny: :sunny: :sunny:

In Heaven, Mike Wallace http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Wallace_(journalist) conducts this interview:

Wallace: Ma'am, we've researched the record and can find no mention in Genesis of 'golf' and its 'ball flight' laws.

The Lord: I invented golf on the 8th day. :eyes:

Wallace: I see. But, why were there no special instructions for that first twosome?

The Lord: There was no need. Man and woman were in place, as were the Laws that governed the uinverse. It was only necessary that they play and comply. :golf:

Wallace: So why has there been so much confusion through the centuries?

The Lord: That's just the Hell of it! :laughing9


:golfcart2:

Hah yes the devil was in the old details.

Re Options.

In 7-3 Homer describes Grip Rotation for manipulated Hands Swingers and Hitters (basically all of us). As you take the ball back along the Arc of Approach to your desired placement you Rotate the handle in your hands accordingly so that the face remains square to the Impact Plane Line. Draw shot ensuing but you need to aim your Plane Line to the Right of the Hole .

Different strokes for different folks. Different ball response too Id imagine as there's less loft to the face in the latter procedure. So lower , hotter .

One instructor I know does the procedure I mention above but set up square to the hole and then without moving his stance line rotates his shoulders and arms and club and face as a unit out to the right .

Dan how do you take the fade out of a tee shot played slightly forward of low point, face square to plane line ? It seems like my driver wants to set up like that.

Thanks again
ob

O.B.:

You are right of course. There are many ways to curve the ball; the fact remains that the face and path must be at odds for the ball to curve. The "hot" curve is great on drives and situations when distance is advantageous. Hitting the "open face draw" is advantageous when accuracy and spin are required.

If the ball is forward of low point, and the goal was to take the "fade", the curve, off the ball, you would have to match up path and club face.

You could do any of the following:

Rotate the plane line closed by adjusting the stance - this would counter the "up and in" path of the club past low point.

You could shift the plane during the swing - this would require a huge lateral shift of the hips and, obviously force the right shoulder under the plane on the downswing. This "in to out" would again counter the "up and in". (not my first choice!)

You could rotate the grip to the right to insure a more closed clubface at separation, or

Finally, you could close the face slightly (matching the face and the path) and play an intentional pull.

Having said all that, I would play the ball slightly behind the low point with the driver - better compression and less adjustments.

Mac O'Grady used to tell us the best swing has "the maximum time to make the minimum adjustments"...words to live by.

I hope I got all the adjustments right, it's really hot in Florida!!

You're on fire Dan thanks!!!

Understanding Homer Kelley and 'Manipulated Hands'
 

O.B. Left, one of the great seekers, thinkers, and writers on LBG, has made an important point. One I fear is lost on most of us (as it was on me until I carefully re-read his post).

He states, "...as you take the BALL [emphasis mine] back along the Arc of Approach...". He did not say the CLUB!

To think that the golfer 'manipulates' the Hands during the Stoke is one of the Great Misconceptions of TGM. (There are many.) O.B.'s post assumes you know this, but long experience tells me you do not.

ALL 'Hand Manipulation' -- Hands to Handle/Clubface -- occurs when the Grip is taken in Fix (7-8; 8-2; 2-J-1) with the BALL in the desired location (Up Plane [back in Stance] or Down Plane [forward] for the Stoke intended. It does not take place dynamically during the Stroke.

Pre-empting the next question, Hinge Actions -- there are three, each the direct responsibility of the Hands -- are not 'Manipulations'. Instead, they are 10th Component Variations that maintain their respective identities despite any Left Wrist-to-Clubface alterations assumed at Fix.

8-)

Wud I miss ? Thanks Yoda.

Yes Grip Rotation listed under Hitters in 6-H-0 is also the procedure for manipulated Hands Swingers . Making me think that the Imperatives of 6-H-0 , Swinging, should really be considered those for True Swinging. But I dunno.

Grip Rotation is one reason I prefer round grips personally. Think about it. I suppose you could rotate a ribbed grip or whatever you call em when you glue them on so the rib sits just right when the face is square at the clubs Straight Away Position, but then it'd get rotated clock or anti clock of that for balls played fore or aft of that ball position, no?

Im going to bed you TGM guys talk about some weird stuff.

Ps

Anyone ever considered how the more you move the ball back, the more you rotate your grip , the more your Standard Wrist Action approaches Sing..........ah forget it.

The Hands are just clamps after all.


Ahh Yoda posts ...... I love em.

Dan where are you in Fla? Im heading that way next March it would seem.

OB:

I am the HP at pine tree golf club in boynton beach, suburb of palm beach
You and any other LBG folks are always welcome!

PM me if you would like to stop by...

Will do Dan. Im coming to Fla next March just not sure if its left or right side as of yet.

BTW have you ever played Seminole, just up the road from you. I can't even find photos of that course on line. Super exclusive .... Last time I was in Miami I called the pro shop and was very, very politely denied access. Despite my begging , pleading.

Bad news OB. Seminole is a guest of member
Deal only! my suggestion is to make friends in high places.

Hope to see you in the spring.

I could try the "Canadians only" door maybe. Thats how Knudson "met" Hogan actually.

http://www.fairwaysgolf.ca/article.php?id=95


Thanks Dan

Seminole allows various charities to have outings usually the week after Mother's Day when they close for the summer. Something can be arranged.

Thats interesting FlaLefty..... early May kinda sorta . Hmmm

I sort of get this!
 

While shooting a 46 and Hitting on a front 9, yesterday, I was concentrating on driving my right elbow from 7 to 1 through the ball cross-line. Despite going 5/3/5 on the first three holes, I realized I wasn't in control of the ball (Lynn's sand/putting/chipping lessons let me hit a pin from the sand and drain two long putts).

There is so much power in the hitting motion! I use it for my sand, chips and pitches. :read: But it is terrifying, as you all know, not knowing where the ball is going with a driver, hybrid or even a 9 iron. And on the front 9 yesterday, I kept searching for the correct ball position but fighting my hands, my right wrist was not staying bent! Sometimes I'd shape a hybrid with a little draw right on line to a pin. Sometimes, I'd bomb a drive (280 yards down a slot in the fairway) but then hook a 9 iron (1.5 club elevation), it just never occurred to me that the ball position and hand position are directly related! :idea1:

So I sort of wimped out and opened my club face and kept swinging to keep the ball fading back to the middle (and gave up at least 30 yards). And I shot a 40.

I feel like I can shoot par swinging but I can shoot lower than par with a hitting stroke. This tip will help me be a better swinger and hitter.

ICT

I Get Letters . .
 

Lynn,
Wanted to follow up since our lesson. I have been following the drills. Let me tell you, WOW, what a difference in my ball striking- I am hitting my dirver LOOOOONNGGG, and of course much straighter. I want to thank you for making the understanding and action of the swing much simpler than I have ever had!

I want to come back down- Perhaps in the Fall, give myself 8 weeks or so of drilling---
thanks Man- what a difference!

Mark Moxley

Hitting it big and enjoying life as a swinger!
 

Lynn, I finally really figured out the "pointing at a cup and reaching for it" analogy for Hitting! :golf:

I am pursuing the Atkins diet and have lost 7 pounds now in about 10 days and had a crisis on the course yesterday! :( I couldn't find my pot belly to hurl it into my swing. I also have been fatigued by my body starting the changeover from burning carbs to burning protein. I was lost without a clue! :confused1

So I dragged myself to the range today and thought about how much lighter I feel and started to move my feet and knees! :happy3:

Before I knew it I was cracking some 240'sh yard range ball drives concentrating on moving my knees to the ball and vertically un-cocking my left wrist and my aim was solid. :)

I was overjoyed and so I overdid it with two large buckets (about 200 balls)! As I neared the end of the second batch I really got tired and was soaked with the Mid-Atlantic humidity. I thought about reaching for the cup or in this case, the ball. I teed one up, RFT'd, and stretched out my right forearm and hand to the ball. :laughing1

250 yards and straight down to the end of the range with a big 'whoosh!!!" LMAO!

The remaining 20 balls went the same way with hybrids, wedges, and irons as well as the driver! I pulled out a scuffed NXT S from Saturday and put it into the woods past the 250 marker on the fly! :golfcart:

Sometimes, I am very dense but sometimes, I'm not!!!

Thanks Lynn for the diet tips!

ICT

Letter From A Lurker After a Phone Call
 

Hey Lynn,

Played today and hit balls. The only thing I concentrated on was the
bend in my left arm in line with the shaft. Remember I'm left handed.
It felt like when I took the club back I only bent my left arm and no
wrist cock. I also felt my club face was probably closed at the top.
I hi the ball great. It's the most compression I've ever had. I didn't
move my right wrist any to cock.
I must have been doing something right. No thought of legs or hips,
just take it back like that and rip it.
Anyway, just giving you a report.
Thanks

Alan Silverblatt