Dg,
Thanks for clarifying that. But much more thanks for your sharing of that wonderful series and participating in the discussions that followed. I've learned a lot reading, listening and observing. You've made a significant contribution to what I think is the best darned golf website out there. Thanks again....

Pat

Re: Tomasello: For the Record
 

I don't see Tomasello using a Hitter's address position in his set-up. I do see a very Joe Dante early wrist set in the beginning of the stroke. Is this what he meant in the above quote? I agree with TT that the hands and wrists doing little in the way of movement once the wedges are set. The “Dante” movement of the hands though runs counter to the right forearm take away which Homer does refer to in my audio lesson as a right forearm pickup. Talking about the clubhead and ball Homer states that you pick it (clubhead) up and pick it (ball) off the ground.

Instead of this “Dante” move, I feel the forearm action at take-away is a reverse #3pp extensor action with the fanning motion of the forearm, not just the clubhead. The wedges may be set or setting as the right elbow bends and cocks the left wrist in a vertical plane.

For the record, the Tom Tomasello series was very enjoyable but not the last word in the golf stroke. TT did not benefit from a longer incubation period that we and TGM are experiencing today. I am so glad to have seen the clips. Thank you DG. :D

delaware golf,

are the tomasello tapes available on tape or dvd? if so where does one get them. i think they are fantastic!

jimmy :D

The 'Kink'
 

In his January 1981 GSEM [Master, Golf Stroke Engineering] Class with Homer Kelley, Tommy Tomasello related the story of one of his most memorable teaching experiences. He had gotten a call from a middle-aged South Carolina home builder who had never played golf -- or any other sports for that matter -- and wanted to take lessons. Tommy agreed to take him on.

The student was a strong man - "a working man" -- but was experiencing the usual slow start and its accompanying frustration. Then came the breakthrough: Tommy armed him with a five-iron and advised him to hit the ball with his right arm while keeping his right wrist bent. The student immediately applied that instruction, and together, he and Tommy stared in amazement as the ball soared 200 yards. :shock:

"I've got it! All I've got to do is keep the 'kink' in my wrist!"

And so it was.

With that piece of advice as his cornerstone, and with an obsession and practice schedule that would rival a touring professional, the student progressed rapidly. Results? Within six months, he was scoring in the mid-70s.

The Flat Left Wrist is the #1 Alignment in G.O.L.F. The great disrupter of this Alignment is the Flattening (a Horizontal Motion) of the Right Wrist during Release. Instead, learn to Uncock (a Vertical Motion) the Left Wrist and Roll (a Rotational Motion) the Left Hand while maintaining the Bent Right Wrist.

It is The Gateway to your best Golf.

That's a super story Yoda. Also great defogging on the release.

Hole of the Day for the Record
 

Using Tomasello's instruction....right arm swing.....

During a round there are some holes that are memorable.....

Today.....

420 yard par 4

230 yard 2 iron....190 yard 4 iron......both shots straight as an arrow (sweet)...190 yard 4 iron landed 10 yards from the pin.....made the putt for birdie....right forearm based putting stroke (straight line delivery path and angled hinging).

Both full shots were with the right arm swing a la Tomasello a la the Golfing Machine.....per 7-19 and 10-11-0-1.

DG

Re: The 'Kink'
 

Great post! Let's say that instead of a big burly dude, that the student weighed 100 lb and was not so strong. Would you get "kinky" with someone not as physically imposing?

Dif'rent Strokes
 

Probably not, 12 Piece. I'd train him in the structure and operation of the Flying Wedges and then, most likely, teach him to Swing, not Hit. The focus would then be on Centrifugal Force and Left Wrist Throw-Out Action, not Muscular Thrust and Right Elbow Drive-Out Action.

Re: Dif'rent Strokes
 

The thing you have to love about Hitting is the use of the right arm. Most people use their dominant hand to do everything. Hitting makes a great deal of sense just from that perspective.

I didn't have a clue you could hit a golf ball until reading The Golfing Machine. And I would have never know HOW TO DO IT if it weren't you Skipper.

It seems that Swinging is more "left side oriented." Is there an effective way to teach Swinging in a "right sided" fashion without the swing center becoming the Right Elbow instead of the Left Shoulder?

Re: Dif'rent Strokes
 

The Right Shoulder acts as a flywheel and spins Down Plane from the Top to provide the initial acceleration. This tightens the left side tension and provides the Left Arm Blast off and Momentum transfer for the Swinger.

But there must be no active Right Arm Drive-Out Action for Swinging.

The drill in this post may help:
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/v...ghlight=#10952

Re: Dif'rent Strokes
 

I read that drill the other day! Good post. Good drill. I understand the flywheel action . . . but I just have better results with my mind on my hand versus my mind on my right shoulder. I like to focus on my Right Forearm Flying Wedge. I'm convinced I'm a much better chipper one handed than with two!

But I know that Swinging has more to do with "aiming" PP3 contrasted with the all out frothing at the mouth driving of PP1 and PP3. I love to focus on driving the entire RFFW.

Maybe with Swinging you can "sling" the RFFW?

Hitting and Swinging

Golf---Accelerating the Club radially with Right Arm Thrust is Hitting. Accelerating the Club longitudinally, with either Arm, is Swinging.


DG

Re: Dif'rent Strokes
 

Thanks 12 piece!

I think it's always important, especially when one is working on a new component, or figuring out a new concept into their swing, that they keep in mind the final destination/goal/target of what they're trying to achieve. What's this 'holy grail'? It is when the Hands no longer consiously Monitor the Clubhead or Body -- only themselves, and automatically dictate total Component compliance with Delivery Path and Plane Line requirements.

So spinning the flywheel is important for the Swinger. Getting the Right Shoulder On Plane and Down Plane is important. It's important because that's what should be happening. And it's good to get a consious sensation of the above activities, especially when you're learning. But for optimal performance, monitor the Hands!

And when you get real good, the intended Ball behaviour could be all the consious programming you'll need to do!

Re: Dif'rent Strokes
 

What a fantastic statement, tong ! The hands train, the body complies. You only need to go back to the pivot if it needs to be re-train/re-programmed. The hands, the structure of the incredible Flying Wedges, is what counts. A clamp? Yes, a “wired” clamp.


When Ted pointed his truth gun at me, his handy dandy camcorder, I saw my right shoulder shoot out and down the swing plane- or so I thought. I was throwing my right shoulder far off plane.

You should not throw the FRONT TOP of your right shoulder down the incline plane, but rather slide the bottom back of the shoulder down the incline. Sort of more like a feet first on your back slide down on a children’s slide than a head first sitting up-right slide down.
At least that is my ‘seems as if” and I sticking with it. “10-14-B and Weeeeeeeeeeeee!”

Re: Dif'rent Strokes
 

See the Tomasello video "The Pivot" for the "stick behind your back pivot drill".....it addresses the same issue.

You want an "On Plane" right shoulder for the downswing (10-13-D)....perform the stick drill in a mirror.....then go watch Tomasello student Jodie Mudd's swing sequence on Brian Manzella's website and watch Jodie's "On Plane" right shoulder.

DG