Nevercrosses is gone. Never to be heard from again.
 

Just wanted to tell everyone thank you for being such hospitable hosts.

Especially, Thank You to Lynn for tolerating my annoying alter ego and for pointing out my rudeness on one occasion.

Also, Thank You to 12 piece for the phone call and questions. Hope it was helpful.

Certainly, this experience has opened my eyes for interpretation of the little yellow book (wishing I had 6th edition, but oh well) and a better understanding of terminology.

JG

Welcome John!

Nevercrosses wasn't one of my favorite personalities, but I learned from his questions, and I have always been able to learn from anything John Graham posts on many forums. I hope you stick around as a welcome addition.
:golf:
Kevin

Kevin,

Thanks for the kind welcome.

I don't blame you.

He had to go.

I still have so much to learn and understand, I may not have a choice. =)

JG

Well. I'm completely freaked out. What kind of way is that to start a relationship?

Maybe he got advice from innercity - how to freak you out?

:laughing9 Ya know, after the few conversations I've had on-line with innercityteacher, he probably knows me well enough to give that kind of advice and I know he's shrewd enough to pull a prank like that.

Are you capable of having different personalities when you go from a nick name to your own name?

A fair question to be sure. Wouldn't surprise me if it got me kicked out of here.

I didn't want people's view of me (from those that already know me on here) to color my first couple posts.

I tend to have a desire to learn from asking questions.

Sometimes this does not come across well and some forums are less agreeable to opposing view points.

I wanted to see if my style would be allowed here without people knowing my style in advance.

I think that is always the case.

One of my favorite things about this place is how style is so unimportant, but substance takes the cake. Except for City and Daryl, however. Those two cats are all about style.

There is a huge difference between guys who ask tough questions to stir things up, like two others were doing this week, and guys who ask tough questions because they want to learn more... John is always trying to learn, and YODA can handle the tough questions. Could be a match made in heaven, and boneheads like me can learn from the exchange.

Kevin

That's fine Kevin. But how about this solution. What if we had some area within the Forum for some of us who don't want to deal with all of this shit from people constantly challenging us on basic crap. How about if it were password protected and required a hundred posts before someone could enter so some of us could discuss stuff without being harassed like this. 75% of the Forum should be protected this way. We've suffered the absence of a lot of knowledgeable members because they couldn't take this crap anymore. Look at it this way: I'm one of the highest posting members on this site and I don't know shit sometimes. Wouldn't our members appreciate a forum that had more knowledgeable members than me?

I don't mind a little banter once in awhile like everyone else but not right in the middle of a good thread. It's destructive. It might be fun for john grahm but how would he like it if I went to his forum and started taking jabs like he did. He doesn't respect that others may be having a conversation and some of the people care enough about it not to have that thread disrupted by bullshit challenges.

If he doesn't like TGM or agree with some of the principles then WHY TELL US. I don't care if he believes in Bozo golf. Who cares. Fuc* off. I'm not here to convince the world of TGM. I only care what I and other like minded members care about sharing and discussing TGM related information.

I apologize Daryl.

Welcome John

Not sure I understand things fully, but welcome.

We had a guy named Jeff Mann once who took the opposite side on everything and drove some of us nuts.........perhaps a well intentioned taking of opposite sides but it still drove me insane.

I hope the real you sticks around and enjoys things. Thanks for your kind words about this place.

Ive believe you've met some of the regulars .....Daryl for instance is Brett Favres communications manager.....

Hey Kev, you don't owe me an apology. You made a very valid point about Johns intentions. You're always level headed and you always make sense to me and I respect and admire you for it.

It's not you, it's me. I've seen a lot of it. Not as much as Yoda or Bucket but they have better "Character" than me. :laughing9 I don't have the high "Stress Threshold" that you and they have. I lash out.

Sorry for putting you on the spot like that.

Daryl,
I look forward to you posts and have had many thought provoking moments because of them. Would hate to be excluded because my interest is to learn from the many intriguing discussions. Having people post just to reach a certain number is not in the best interest of the forum. Recent examples attest to this.
All of us get frustrated by interruptions and frivolous comments.
This is still the best place to be.

Your right. I always read your posts and I look forward to them and your insight.

Thank you

I've been working on a personal breakthrough on Low Point and Hinging for O.B.'s thread for three days now, and it keeps getting interrupted, and now, if you visit the thread, it's turned into "We again need to put everything on hold to prove Hinge Action exists." ok, that's life.

Message Received
 

Sorry for the interruption.

Please continue with your forum.

Good Luck and Best Wishes to all.

Forget about my low point thread.......I just wish you'd acknowledge the Brett FAvre communication manager crack......that was a good one man!

No need , stick around man.

Sheesh, now I'M GETTING SLAPPED AROUND FROM AIR AND DARYL!
 

LET ME BE CLEAR! I ASK QUESTIONS BECAUSE I JUST DON'T KNOW A LOT! BEFORE I STARTED WRITING MY POSTS I WAS HOPELESSLY CONFUSED AND LONELY. NOW, I HAVE FRIENDS WHO ABUSE ME AND FRIENDS WHO SUPPORT/TEACH ME COOL THINGS ABOUT GOLF AND NORDIC FRISBEE GOLF DISKS. IF I REALLY THOUGHT I KNEW HOW TO SHOOT PAR, I'D SHOOT IT 5 TIMES IN A ROW, DRIVE TO BOLLINGBROOK, DROP PAR ON DARYL, TAKE A PICTURE OF HIS REAL BALD HEAD AND PUT IT ON YOU TUBE!

You have been warned!!! :)


YBGF

:boohoo: No one is asking you to leave. But people come and go without stirring the pot. Well, not too much anyway.

It was good. I really wanted to acknowledge that but when I'm in my "jerk" mood I can't think straight.

Dont worry about it , all those guys were just City's alter egos anyways ........he's messing with your head big time.

Who abuses you? I'm giving you 12 strokes. :) I read and acknowledge your posts no matter how painful(or fun). You take more abuse from your 'Teachers Aid' then you do from me. :laughing9

Ah I got a question about this 85% thing of trackmans...........85% which way? Up and down or left and right? Im thinking its up and down or just down, maybe Im wrong. Homers "practically" at right angles was left and right of course.

I dunno. Where's John?

"More and more this seems to be about less and less. "

I don't have a "Teacher's Aid" Daryl...
 

...like the affluent oppressors of the masses in Bollingbrook. I have rats and large mice, but thanks for bringing it up, OK? :)
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On the other hand, you have been grumbling for a couple of days. Those guys from wherever don't know anything. We could just make a rule to post materials without slamming anyone by name. Treat all new "observations" as ideas to be proven over time. Whenever some person castigates by name, we just delete the name or post.

OB, your remark about Favre was funny. All sports radio is covering now are his failed attempts to seduce a younger woman recorde on tape. He is a sad guy.


Moi

Ok, I was out of line. The next time someone comes with their gloves on, I'll man the water bucket. :salut:

Just remember who's sheriff in this town. :)
I had John pegged long before he announced his identity.

He is welcome to continue his journey here along with the other sites he frequents. We can all learn from his trackman and lesson tee experiences.

Hey Daryl, it takes two people to start a fight.
 

You put a lot of effort and thought into your posts. You are careful with words, too. When someone tells you your remarks/observations are "irrelevant" it can sound like an invitation to throw down.

Having seen the elasticity of a golf ball at impact on youtube, I could never disregard hinging. But the Internet is a tough medium for good communication so stuff happens.

You are good at what you do here. :)

I like sounding like OB, Kevin, and Jerry!

YBHF

And what is it with innercity's signature???

Is it a post? , a signature?, or a manifesto? :)

Who is John by the way? Teacher? Pro?

I wanna talk to him more about Trackman. Ive been watching some Sean Foley stuff and he's got me all worked up about it. The news letters are interesting too if you've checked them out.

PGA Teaching Pro out of Rochester. Goggle John Graham Golf.
Can't link you yet John. Maybe sometime in the future.

Thanks Bagger, will do. Rochester's just down the street.......prolly got a lot of Leaf fans there.....Id imagine.

Gonna creep him under an assumed name..............Innercity daryl......

I gotta bump this up I really want to know if this could possibly be true.

Out of His Own Closet
 

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Sign-Off #2

Thank you, John, for your dripping condescension. We nailed your IP and identity from your earliest posts and knew exactly what was going on. Hope your agenda was served.

Ours was.

Interesting that the 'heat in the kitchen' was enough to make you 'come clean' and skedaddle while you still had a tail to put between your legs. Not as much fun when the punching bag punches back, is it?

So 'hello and good-bye' . . .

At LBG . . .

The beat goes on.

:3gears:

Daryl, you are OK. NO worries!
 

So long NC.

Sorry, B! I am getting too excited, again.
 

I will shorten it and make my peeps here, happier. :)

(this is the calm 'daryl', it's not my normal personality)


Dear Sheriff Bagger Lance,

It's become apparent that LGB.com, along with its Pro Contributors, Members and Homer Kelley's research has become a testing ground for new Golf Theories. By applying our knowledge of Alignments and Forces to new theory, we serve as an examination Gauntlet that otherwise wouldn't exist.*

When dealing with future encounters, my perspective will be to treat them as such. By sifting new theories through an Alignment and Forces examination, much may not get through. But something may, and that information can add to our own knowledge.

It may seem that sometimes visitors engage us with a challenge. But maybe it's not them wanting confrontation, but them wanting a theory confronted by people who have the knowledge and commitment to do so.

* (With all due respect to Chuck Evans, and Paul Smith (Golf Guru), who runs Iseekgolf.com with an exceptional group of members too.

Huge mistake in my judgement. I apologize to all for standing up for him. I am seeing posts on other forums that tell me I was dead wrong in my assessment of the situation. I won't be so trusting in the future. Sorry friends.

Kevin

Dear Calm Daryl,

It's great that we are a litmus test, but that's not our primary mission and TGM is not Lynn's only text. If there is new knowledge to add or corrections to make to Homer's 30 year old work, great! Happy to help if we can, but we aren't the "keepers of the sacred scrolls".

Joe Daniels is. Take it up with him. We can only advise and consult if asked.

Other sites want to play tribal warfare and that's fine. They have been off our radar for a long time.

That is until one of their supporters shows up with an agenda to discredit LBG. Why here and not at Joe Daniels shop? Good question. Maybe it is a litmus test. But in most cases it is cloaked with an agenda.

So without knowing who we are dealing with, we have to tread with caution. Unfortunately.

We are simply interested in helping people play better golf on their home course and on TOUR.