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curtisj76 04-20-2008 06:05 PM

Tomasello's "1 to 2"
 
If you are familiar with Tomasello's videos, what do you call his "1 to 2" move? Is that the start-up swivel? Is there a place in the yellow book that could explain it? I just started doing this and for some reason I'm smacking the crap out of the ball now. Any info would be great.

Thanks!

yodeli 04-24-2008 06:29 AM

Flying wedges assembly and sweep
 
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Originally Posted by curtisj76 (Post 52054)
If you are familiar with Tomasello's videos, what do you call his "1 to 2" move? Is that the start-up swivel? Is there a place in the yellow book that could explain it? I just started doing this and for some reason I'm smacking the crap out of the ball now. Any info would be great.

Thanks!

Hi Curtis,

I think that Tomasello's 1 to 2 move's purpose is to assemble the power package early during startup using a full Sweep pattern (see 10-22-A).

curtisj76 04-24-2008 10:23 AM

Hey thanks, I thought I was forgotten.

rwh 04-24-2008 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by curtisj76 (Post 52054)
If you are familiar with Tomasello's videos, what do you call his "1 to 2" move? Is that the start-up swivel? Is there a place in the yellow book that could explain it? I just started doing this and for some reason I'm smacking the crap out of the ball now. Any info would be great.

Thanks!

As he demonstrates the "1 to 2" move standing inside the plane board, it corresponds to Section 4 - Start Up of the Twelve Sections described in Chapter 8. However, the swivel part is generally only used by Swingers.

8cork 04-24-2008 03:56 PM

I have a question, when the club is parallel to the ground on the backswing, should the face match your spine angle, or should it be straight up and down?
I am referring to a swinging motion.

curtisj76 04-24-2008 09:20 PM

The first time I tried this I fell in love with it. It got me interested more and more about Tomasello. I just need to learn to do it right all the time. Seems like I can get really flat. I was told this was possibly due to over-rotating my left forearm. Also can get the shanks with the wedges. Like everything else, just need to practice.

Thanks for replying everyone. Keep it going if you have anymore!

-Curtis

curtisj76 04-24-2008 09:36 PM

PS One more thing. I've read that Tomasello said and did different things sometimes, and he later on admitted that he made some mistakes along the way (don't we all). My question is did he make any changes to this (1 to 2) after it was filmed (Australia)? Thanks again!

Delaware Golf 04-27-2008 05:00 PM

A lot to learn with the 1 to 2 position
 
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Originally Posted by curtisj76 (Post 52111)
PS One more thing. I've read that Tomasello said and did different things sometimes, and he later on admitted that he made some mistakes along the way (don't we all). My question is did he make any changes to this (1 to 2) after it was filmed (Australia)? Thanks again!

The Australia video of Tomasello was given to me by the man himself as I left his studio on October 22nd 1993. The original copy Tommy gave me had poor tape quality, I actually had to get another copy from Tommy by mail (I sent of copy of that video to Lynn and co. and they did an excellent job editing the 70+ minutes of video into a 9 segment "chapter series"). The 1 to 2 position is from the 10 step sequence drill. That first position (1 to 2) addresses two components....1) Component 10-18-A Standard Wrist condition which is the normal wrist condition for swingers. 2) Component 10-23-C Power Package Delivery Path....the path of the hands on the backstroke and downstroke. Once you learn the drill, you can execute the backstroke sequence per 7-3 with the Magic of the Right Forearm. Cock the right elbow from the start of the backstroke and uncock the elbow from the muscles of the right forearm for the downstroke. As Tommy said...."the right forearm is in complete control." (Tom Tomasello 10/1993 and reference Tommy's 1991 GI interview). During my three day school in 1993 Tommy taught me to use 10-20-B with swinging, since then I've learned that Tommy taught the downswing with 10-20-D (both forearms starting the downswing, reference the Australia video and the term whipcracking in section 9.2 of the Golfing Machine), and he also taught Jodie Mudd and Sally Little to start the downswing with 10-20-C.

DG

curtisj76 04-27-2008 10:56 PM

Never have I hit the ball as good as I am now. Maybe it's just in my head but it all started when I started the "1 to 2"...

PS Thanks Delaware for your reply.

6bmike 05-03-2008 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by curtisj76 (Post 52235)
Hey Trig, I'm blown away as well. Can you expand on what he showed you? Was it the "1 to 2" or something else? Thanks

PS Was it any different with his wedges? I"m still a little concerned with the shanks. THANKS

What excatly does 1 to 2 teach a student besides two positions? 1 to 2 is fine but it is Homer that is the devil in the details- not going from point 1 to point 2.

strav 05-04-2008 09:16 PM

Tomasello and the sweet spot plane
 
In Homer's diagram 2-C-1 #1 the sweet spot plane is above the clubshaft plane which is laying on the inclined plane.
After Tomasello performs his 1 to 2 move, are the sweetspot plane and the clubshaft plane now both laying on the inclined plane or does the sweet spot plane remain above the inclined plane?

strav 05-04-2008 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bagger Lance (Post 52278)
Strav,

This is the Tomasello thread and I've been discussing something a bit different. Maybe I should split out the non-Tomasello discussions into another thread. In Chapter 7 of the Tomasello video series there is a takeaway drill that shows how Tom does it.

He simply turns the left wrist and bends the right wrist at startup. He lays the entire clubshaft full length on the plane, then takes the left arm straight up from there. There is more details in the video.

Sorry Bagger I thought I was addressing Tomasello's "1 to 2" move as indicated in the thread's title and the first post where he asks for " a place in the yellow book that could explain it? "

Delaware Golf 05-05-2008 01:07 AM

Cocks the right elbow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by strav (Post 52280)
Sorry Bagger I thought I was addressing Tomasello's "1 to 2" move as indicated in the thread's title and the first post where he asks for " a place in the yellow book that could explain it? "


In reference to post #12, after Tommy executes the 1 to 2 move, he uses the cocking of the right elbow to move the left arm. But, once you get past the drill, Tommy uses the Magic of the Right Forearm procedure as described in the last paragraph of 7-3 to execute the backstroke. Or he used a combination of standard hip-action and the cocking of the right elbow on the back stroke.

DG

DennisG 10-03-2008 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strav (Post 52273)
In Homer's diagram 2-C-1 #1 the sweet spot plane is above the clubshaft plane which is laying on the inclined plane.
After Tomasello performs his 1 to 2 move, are the sweetspot plane and the clubshaft plane now both laying on the inclined plane or does the sweet spot plane remain above the inclined plane?

I would venture that the answer to this question is that,Yes, this move causes the sweetspot and clubshaft to both reside on the inclined plane. Along with flattening the left wrist, bending the right wrist and moving the right elbow in front of and closer to the right hip.

Dennis


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