Awesome Website!!!!
 

Check this out y'all . . .

http://www.pgatour.com/swingplex/01/26/02/index.html

Swing Source
 

Great, Bucket. Thanks!

I especially like the one of Tiger hitting driver. I wonder how a different announcer would try to explain how he hits his driver on the upswing when the water is spraying off the club and ground after impact. :eyes:

Goin' Down!
 

Good catch, BBax. Right you are!

I only hope that Tiger doesn't listen to the 'hit up' announcers. If he does, the results are likely to be disastrous. Unless, of course, he tees it further Forward in his Stance (outside his Left Shoulder) and Inward in accordance with his Impact Alignments. Also, since this will automatically put the Clubhead on an Upward path, he'll need to tee the ball higher.

Otherwise, 'hitting up' will produce inconsistent results, and the field has a chance!

:)

But wait!
 

I for one would like to know how you can tell he isn't because I sure can't tell given this camera angle. Don't know that I could tell with a face on view either because the human eye can't process images that quickly.

Tiger often tees the ball low for certain shots as mentioned in the Match Play. If you notice, the tee comes out of the ground, but there is no divot flying through the air. Did Tiger try to hit a boring shot here? Was he hitting a stinger or was he attempting a maximum distance tee shot? Unless you are analyzing frame by frame, no one knows so your assumption may be invalid.

E.

Padraig
 

Put the mouse cursor on Padraig's right hip at address and watch what happens. :shock:

Clark
 

Check out Tim Clark's feet.

NOTE: ON some of these you can hit the "back" button and see the down the line view too.

Slide? What would you say is the advantage/disadvantage? Holla!

choi
 

Anybody notice in the Choi face-on view that it looks like he loses lag pressure at the end of his backswing before the start down? Looks like the clubhead rebounds a bit.

Toms makes the same move . .. I think Els does it a little bit now too but not much in this video.

K.J. Choi and David Toms -- Hitters
 

K. J. Choi and David Toms are Hitters who have been taught to take their Backstroke to the Swinger's End (Hands well above Right Shoulder with the Clubshaft approaching Horizontal). In their respective videos, instead of 're-tracing' and Drag Loading (10-19-C) -- the Swinger's procedure -- each is simply establishing those alignments most compatible with their true Hitter's Pattern (and with which they are most comfortable).

In other words, they are returning to the Hitter's Top -- Hands Right Shoulder High and On Plane -- with a minimum of #2 Accumulator (Left Wristcock) Lag. Pause each video at this point and you will see the classic Hitter's alignments, including the 'high clubshaft' pointing skyward. [A comparison of these 'swings' at this point with the Ted Fort's Top would be instructive. Help, hg!]

From here, each player begins his Hitter's Drive Load (10-19-A) toward the Ball; his Hitter's Random Sweep Release (Automatic / 10-24-C); and his Hitter's Angled Hinge Action (10-10-C) through Impact and Follow-Through.

:)

A.I. for the Straight Guy (and those that want to be)
 

BBax (Rob Baxter) is a PGA member and also an A.I. He is one of the best teachers in New England. He has great eyes (in a "golfing way"). Not that there is anything wrong with that :naughty: .

Baddeley and Calc have dancing right foot into follow through....big toe tapping slide.

Drewitgolf's Right Side (of the Brain)
 

Thanks for this info, Drew. I didn't know BBax's qualifications, but am glad I now do.

Also, loved the title of your post:

A.I. for the Straight Guy (and those that want to be)

Very creative!

http://www.angelfire.com/wi/2brains/right.html

http://www.angelfire.com/wi/2brains/left.html

We should have a separate thread on this stuff!

:salut:

kj toms fort comparison
 

How's this :)

The Hitter's Top
 

Great, hg. Now let's isolate Ted's frame #5 (his Top / 10-21-A / Hands shoulder high) and capture the same spot in KJ's and David's swings (their Downstroke Top / 10-21-D / Hands at Top during End downstroke). Three photos total.

Thanks!

Top Comparison
 

Here are thumbnails of Ted's Top compared to David & KJ at same location on downswing. :)

I think that the videos are just ok. :)

Hitter's Lineup
 

And there you have it. Thanks, Hector!

Also, compare the Hitter's Minimum Lag (10-19-0) -- see David Toms in the thumbnail below -- with the Swinger's Maximum Lag (10-19-0) you see here:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/cmps_in...age=multimedia

Thanks for the info. He is surely more qualified than I, but I still don't see how anyone can discern from a down the line view the actual angle of attack. Heck, even Trackman (and most other launch monitors I have been on) needs to view impact from a face on perspective to gather data.

E.

Here's Brian at the Top
 

How 'bout this one Yoda:)

Add One More Hitter
 

Oh, him.

;-)

That would be a Hitter's Top.

Thanks, hg!

:salut:

se habla espanglish
 

Or a little Sergio...

Proud and disappointed...at the same time!
 

I caught the hitter's top with David Toms:) but I did not trust my interpretation :( It appears as though they have a "hitch" but in reality it is getting back to top in preparation for drive loading! Only those that wield TGM can provide that kind of analysis!

BBAX / Drew
 

Oh no, thats all we need is another Redsox / Patriot fan. :eyes: I hope these aren't his golf eyes:laughing9


Drew, I thought you were the best teacher in New England??. :naughty:

Hank jnr...the other one
 

Hey, haven't you heard? There is no such thing as Redsox Nation! I loved the quip on ESPN about another rich kid who we should not listen to...or something to that effect. Nothing like stirring the pot!

Luck of the Irish
 

Don't forget Celtics fan!

Hanks for the Memories!
 

When the Yankees win a World Series in this century, then Hank may become relevant. That is if daddy George says its OK.

Two sides to every story.
 

Thats my problem. I can't decide which side of my brain to use, and neither can I.

OK, one small request. We have two slow motion clips of Hitters, so I went back to the videos to try and see a pre-stressed clubshaft for either player. I tried repeatedly to hit the pause button at the right moment, but couldn't capture it. Could HG help get a frame or two just before impact so we can see how the shaft is bending?

KJ Pre-Impact
 

Can you see shaft bending?

Thanks, hg. To answer your question, yes and no. Yes, I see some bending in the first frame, but it's opposite of what I thought a (radially) prestressed shaft would look like. I've seen numerous pictures of the shaft stressed by centrifugal force, where from a face-on view it looks bent like this-- "(". I just expected that with a hitter it would look more like this-- ")". Choi's shaft looks a lot straighter than most. Maybe that's the net result of the two forces for hitters?

Yoda, here are the three pictures you requested side-by-side and bigger.

<img src="http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/imagehosting/thum_422488c75a415bb6.jpg" width="275" /><img src="http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/imagehosting/thum_422488c75da7cf7a.jpg" width="275" /><img src="http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/imagehosting/thum_422488c75f1d97d3.jpg" width="275" />

Can't really thrust with the right triceps from the top can you?
These guys must really delay the right arm until the hip slide or turn brings
the power package in line for delivery.

So many years wasted trying to get myself past this position at the top. Thanks to Ted I now reside at the FORTress of Hititude:salut:

Jack's top and random sweep
 

How about the Bear's top fella's?
Is he a thruster with a little float loading?
Random sweep? Punch elbow?
I dunno.

O.B.

Luke, I guess you can tell that Lynn performed a conversion on me at Cuscowilla last week.
Im dumbing everything down from now on and trying to git ma spell'n to where it shud be 2.



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