Swing Plane Devices
 

I was considering building a swing plane device similar to what you see in TGM. But before I go to all that effort, would anyone recommend a commercial product they have purchased which they would consider a good value.

Planes
 

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There is one called EXPLANAR... PRICE... not sure.

Planes
 

The rim on the Explanar is round wich can give you different planes, so there might be a better solution out there?

i built the ultimate planeboard but...not much commercially financially wise MY end...the trick is to have the shaft lay flat on the plane as well, not just pointing to it like the Explanar. ibuilt such a thing out of cardboard that makes 4 pieces of a circle that you can put together, one against the other with all the fittings...then i found out how much it would cost to make a prototype...yikes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

shoved into garbage can with move to new house but had a go on alot of swings on it for my own game, but i kept pics and plans, kinda like a cardboard version of homers, adaptable for all planes and length of sticks and carryable and sendable in a 48" max length in the mail to keep costs down. But just know, that you must keep the shaft as well on that freakin plane.

I have found the Explanar to be a great aid in my teaching. It retails for $799.99. The pole rolls on the plane, it is a lot like a dowel rod on a plane board. The only thing I find that the Explanar is missing is the sweet spot plane, however it is great for teaching, learning, and working on your flying wedges....if you know how to use the yellow book and what you are looking for.

It should also be noted that the explanar is adjustuble for different planes...shoulder, hands, etc.

I also know a couple other AI's who use this device with success.

Sorting Through the Instructors Textbook.

B-Ray

Denny I agree with you that a shiftless plane is very hard to achieve......I like to use the explanar to teach the flying wedeges. I show my student the wedges on a horizontal surface and then I have them roll them up and down the Explanar. Without the explanar plane shifts do show up, however it is very hard for the student to get excessive right wrist bend on the explanar.

The problem with training aids is that you can find flaws for alot of them......I use training aids for what I need and then set it aside. Having a giant cirle right next to me helps me explain The Golfing Machine conceptualy a lot better.

Sorting Through the Instructors Textbook.

B-Ray

Apologies in advance for resurrecting an old thread. I am very intrigued by this swing plane device, similar to one Martin Hall used on the Golf Channel.

http://www.pvcsports.com/store/detai...8&productID=57

Anyone have experience with this? Worthwhile for a teacher? Other, better ideas?

Thanks,
Kevin

Hi Kevin,

Martin Hall uses the one from pvcsports. He used at the PGA Teaching & Coaching Summit, that i attended in 2006. I use it myself and find it very useful because it allows the club to lie flat on the plane. Other single rail plane devices can let the club travel off plane. Also, it is lightweight and easy to move around, can be stored easily, and is adjustable to accomadate different planes.

You may want to check out mikebender.com. Under training aids Mike has plans for a swing plane board, for $12.95. I have used it at his academy and it is ajustable to allow use of different clubs. I built one using his plans a few years ago for about $125. It weathered (spending 9 months of the year totally exposed to the elements) well for a couple of years, but I finally had to retire it. It is mobile, but being made of would, it is heavy.

Either way it is almost a necessity to have a swing plane board. Personally, I cannot think of a way to give student a clearer image of the swing plane. Hopefully you will find something useful from this post.

Sligo33,

Thank you Sir for the detailed answer. I agree, I HAVE to have a plane board. I will check out Mike's website as well. I appreciate the help!

Kevin

hank johnson wrote a book that has the directions for bluilding a plane board in it. get a book and lthe directions. what a deal.

Thanks Joe.

:golf:

Kevin

I make a simple board out of two 4' x 8' sheets of styrofoam building insualtion. Layed one on top of the other and cut a circle using a cheap soldering iron. I duct taped the two pieces together and use dowels to prop it up. It can also be used standing on end so you can find the true turned shoulder plane on the backswing. You build another half and duct tape together making a complete plane board.
Pretty simple, cheap and lightweight. Not exactly portable or sturdy for commercial use. You could make it sturdier by gluing with contact cement a piece of plywood to the back.

Thanks Mb6606,

I own a hammer and a screw driver. Not sure when to use which? :) Basically, I'm a mechanical idiot. I'm thinking I am going to go ahead and purchase the one made from pvc pipe. It actually seems very reasonable at $249, and looks very professional. I found Bender's book for making one, but I need to move it constantly, and with my old farts back, I want something very light like the pvc built plane board.

Thanks guys for spending the time helping with ideas. Very much appreciated!

Kevin

soon, I hope
 

I've been working for years on such a device. As soon as I get the patent process started, I'll o.k. it with Lynn and use this site to unveil it to everyone.

It will fit in the trunk of a car, and you'll be able to hit balls with it.

YodasLuke,

I'll wait and see what you come up with!

Kevin

Plane Board
 

I built one using 1x2 frame and 1/4" plywood. It's just hip high and used for tracing thru impact. I hinged it so it folds flat.

I always thought you could make one out of the same materials and concept as the pop up tents. Not sure the development costs would be worth the potential revenue.

I Benched MY Plane Projects
 

While you are waiting for a suitable plane device using a low bench works nicely! You have to laugh at the simplicity!

Bucket,
Copy and save this post- my attorney may need it in the future- and if anything happens to me- please use this as evidence. Please make these notes - "I'll O.K." spelled backwards- that's right - Kill. Notice that he doesn't say everyone and Mike O.!! Make sure that you have them make a thorough investigation of Ted's Trunk for DNA material. Look for my body buried under a cement slab - Note: "Balls" spelled backwards - Slabb!!! When I go missing - sneak over to his house and dig up his driveway - if you don't find me there - head around back to his Patio and dig that up- if I'm not there dig up the foundation!!! You need to promise me - in fact any members that have appreciated - just one post that I've ever made - please commit to following this plan out as one act celebrating my life - if something should happen to me - which I think will happen if I understand the secret codes that I'm seeing in this post.

Help!!!!
 

Hi Everyone,
This is Mrs. Mike O. and well :crybaby: my husband has been missing for 24 hours now and I'm afraid something terrible has happened. Any help that you could provide- I would be deeply indebted to you and if you could find his body - I would give that person my dead husband's entire Homer Kelley Golfing Machine collection.

Sincerely,


Mrs. Mike O.

too funny!

Top form Mike O!

I'm feeling a little chipper today
 

What is wood chipper and coffee grinder spelled backwards? (Can't find the body?) &D: &C

Mrs. Mike O,
When do you think we'll get the insurance check, sweetie?
Love, Snookums

Hello Mrs. O,

I'm fairly new at LBG, I didn't get to know your husband very well yet, but I'm pretty sure he would want me to have his boat and riding lawn mower. Please PM me with your email address. I prefer not to post my shipping address here where the authorities may see it.

Kevin

Mrs. O,

Your husband has been banned from all of golfdom (forums, courses, driving ranges etc.) and has been relocated to a goat petting zoo/mini-golf facility in Tibet. He will not be returning and has asked you to foward all H.K. documentation to me. Do not trust anyone named Bucket who may state claims to Mike's estate. He is a greasy chicken magnate and cannot be trusted. Mike did ask that you ship his Tommy Lasorda Signature Edition Slimfast's to him at once:

Mike O
Lost Way
Nechung Monastery, Tibet

Hey Greg!!!! Good to see you out here!!! So it's "Mrs." Mike O now??? Wow Greg that's great . . . . you finally saved up enough cash and had the operation huh? Congrats!!! . . . . perfect timing with the whole Prop 8 deal now you and Mike can really get married. That's so great Greg. Have you decided on your girl name now that you are a chick? How about "Man"dy? Or A"man"da?

Anyway Greg that's so great that you are a girl now . . . .I bet you are pretty too. What did they do about the whole sweater by Darwin deal? Will the estrogin take care of that?

Well congrats again dude . . . I mean girl. I'm soooooo happy for y'all.

Sick
 

You SICK Ba.....s!!:hang: I'm take'n NAMES!!

plane board
 

I had one made at an upholstery shop out of marine vinyl over heavy foam. I think it was $85. It's held up well. Any decent car upholstery shop could do it.

Picture a right angle triangle (a2+b2=c2).

The a2 part is fixed at 14.5" and the shaft plane c2 is 20". b2 is adjustable for different lie angles.

Whats your angle ?
 

Martin,

What length do you use (Plane Line length) and what lie angle you find most beneficial? I use PVC which adapts for all club lie angles, but is to cumbersome to transport.

Thanks

Hanks book
 

The book was called "golfs three games" I just sold it on Amazon.

Dual Track is one of the best!
 

The Duel Track is one of the best out there. You can use it many ways and even hit balls with it. If you are a TGM instructor you can get it at a discount at www.thegolfingmachine.com I think it retails for $129.95. You can get both right hand and left hand models.

John W Rohan-Weaver CMAI, GSEM

Man that sure looks like the Foothills Golf Club south of Phx...

Very Cool!

why doesn't lynn have one of those. Even the lower half would be good. Use just the two lower sections and I bet the golfgnome would stick two dowels in the upper section to extend the plane. Probably put two orange noodles on that thing too

Yoda Doesn't Miss A Thing!
 

:salut: :salut: :salut:

On Martin Hall's Golf Channel video (I think it was that video), he had a small plane board with some props on the back to adjust angle. what was interesting to me was the small pvc pipe segments attached on the back at 45* angle. He then put driveway reflectors in the pvc segments to make a larger "plane" (by virtue of at least the markers).

Plane and Simple
 

Whip,

I am sold. Do you have blue-prints on this Plane board?

Very interested!

Explanar
 

I use it daily 5-10 minutes at a time. I won't go to the range without swinging the weighted rollers (long for woods, short for irons). The product only recommends partial swings, but I have no problems working through total motion. Although my laser devices are as useful for working on plane alignments, I like the guided roller for the first move off the ball (my tendency is a fraction outside on takeaway. The heavy weight of the weighted roller forces full release even for those (most unfortunate)of us with the strongest "hold off" tendencies through impact. There is no clubface on the roller, but there is a rod between the handle and roller to place a clip or other "makeshift" clubface in order to monitor hinge actions. It is very interesting to monitor the natural hinge actions which result from imparting mostly right hand vs. mostly left handed forces through the impact interval (no surprises, but very cool to confirm TGM concepts). Although I use the Explanar in front of a large mirror, muscle memory is best attained by not watching the roller make its way around the hoop, but rather focusing on a real golf ball placed on the ground and addressed as if one were intending to actually make contact.

It certainly does. I worked at the Foothills and spent a lot of time their.

I like the look of that. Do you ship outside the US?
Alex