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willgolf 09-27-2006 01:49 PM

How do you accelerate an "axe handle"?
 
After reading all posts regarding hitting, I am still confused with:

"Then, after the initial Downstroke Shoulder Acceleration (8-7), he accelerates the Club by Pushing against the Clubshaft as if it was an Axe Handle."

When I use an axe to cut down a tree, I typically cock and uncock my right wrist, which I know is wrong with regards to the golf swing.

I've read 2-K and 7-19 countless times, but I don't understand what this has to do with an axe handle. Are we really talking about an "axing" motion, like when you are using an axe or does this reference mean something else?

Thanks for your help,
Will

Yoda 09-27-2006 03:18 PM

Axe Handle Clubshaft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by willgolf

I've read 2-K and 7-19 countless times, but I don't understand what this has to do with an axe handle. Are we really talking about an "axing" motion, like when you are using an axe or does this reference mean something else?

Will,

We're not talking about an "axing motion" here. We're talking about the physics of Clubshaft structure.

Imagine the Clubshaft as an axe handle. Not steel...not graphite...just a stiff, wooden axe handle. The Hitter Loads his Right Elbow during the Start Down and then uses it to Push the Axe Handle Clubshaft (and its attached Clubhead) through Release and Impact.

If the Clubshaft were something more flexible -- say, a piece of rope -- then a Swinger could Pull the 'rope' (and its attached Clubhead) through Impact. But the Hitter could not Push it through.

Bottom line:

You can push on an Axe Handle and divert its Centripetal Force into a rotating motion.

You cannot push on a Rope Handle.

jim_0068 09-27-2006 04:11 PM

Use the palm of your right hand to push on your left thumb and punch the ground as hard as you can WITHOUT un-bending the right wrist.

That's thrusting in a nutshell.

12 piece bucket 09-27-2006 04:27 PM

Not being a smartass here . . . but is pushing as HARD AS YOU CAN really what you want to do?

birdie_man 09-27-2006 07:22 PM

YOU smARTASSSS!!! :)

...

Gotta watch for overacceleraction...

jim_0068 09-28-2006 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
Not being a smartass here . . . but is pushing as HARD AS YOU CAN really what you want to do?

Sometimes when you want to hit it realllllly far ;)

But not always, you regulate your "thrust" or your "punch" for the amount of distance you want. just like if you wanted to knock someone out or jab them, you'd exert different kinds of forces.

Mike O 09-28-2006 02:06 AM

Axe Handle Technique
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by willgolf
After reading all posts regarding hitting, I am still confused with:

"Then, after the initial Downstroke Shoulder Acceleration (8-7), he accelerates the Club by Pushing against the Clubshaft as if it was an Axe Handle."

When I use an axe to cut down a tree, I typically cock and uncock my right wrist, which I know is wrong with regards to the golf swing.

I've read 2-K and 7-19 countless times, but I don't understand what this has to do with an axe handle. Are we really talking about an "axing" motion, like when you are using an axe or does this reference mean something else?

Thanks for your help,
Will

Will,
Good Question.
Certainly, chopping wood with an axe over your head is a swinging motion. But when you are pushing on an axe handle to split shakes for kindling- we'll that's where the hitting analogy comes into play. Have I sawed it?, cut it?, chopped it?,sure have! Give me a STIHL chainsaw and watch me go- especially on Bucket's Head!

12 piece bucket 09-28-2006 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike O
Will,
Good Question.
Certainly, chopping wood with an axe over your head is a swinging motion. But when you are pushing on an axe handle to split shakes for kindling- we'll that's where the hitting analogy comes into play. Have I sawed it?, cut it?, chopped it?,sure have! Give me a STIHL chainsaw and watch me go- especially on Bucket's Head!

If ANYBODY knows this stuff . . . it would be the D-Cap-it-tater.

What the hell are spit shakes? Is that some sort of bodily function concoction that you feed your victims before you whack 'em dead? Or is the shakes you get when you haven't had your fix of Hostess King Dongs?

patrick burke 09-28-2006 02:04 PM

How Does A Hitter Load The Right Elbow During Startdown??

cpwindow4 09-28-2006 03:42 PM

Pat good to see you
 
Hope your well.I left you a message on this take care.
May the course be with you,
Dana

coophitter 09-28-2006 04:59 PM

Length of backswing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
Not being a smartass here . . . but is pushing as HARD AS YOU CAN really what you want to do?

I think if a Hitter follows Kelley's advice and employs the advantage that a Hitter may end his backstroke when the right elbow becomes bent, then a Hitter can grip it tight and hit as hard as he can with his right arm while keeping his body steady. Shorten the stroke, still the body, and deliver Tommy Armour's (bent back) right handed smash!

Mike O 09-28-2006 06:30 PM

Sad
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
If ANYBODY knows this stuff . . . it would be the D-Cap-it-tater.

What the hell are spit shakes? Is that some sort of bodily function concoction that you feed your victims before you whack 'em dead? Or is the shakes you get when you haven't had your fix of Hostess King Dongs?

You really have dropped so low- It's just sad!:crybaby: Oh- by the way- when you get home tonight and check out back for your barbecue- AIN'T THERE!, I TOOK IT!:clap:

12 piece bucket 09-28-2006 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike O
You really have dropped so low- It's just sad!:crybaby: Oh- by the way- when you get home tonight and check out back for your barbecue- AIN'T THERE!, I TOOK IT!:clap:

YOU BASTARD!!!!

Mike O 09-28-2006 11:20 PM

Sweet Music
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
YOU BASTARD!!!!

Coming from you - that's sweet music to my ears!:thumright

Bagger Lance 09-28-2006 11:42 PM

The Battle Rages
 
Quote:

Coming from you - that's sweet music to my ears!
For the Readers...

There is a little tiff that has spilled across the internet landscape and is building to a halloween cresendo, so pay no attention.

I'm going to get a special room set up; padded walls, padded sumo suits, golf clubs from toys-r-us, and a big plastic tub full of jello so these guys can work it out. We'll be selling tickets over paypal.:)

AND WHERE'S MY MODERATOR IN THIS SECTION???

Thanks for your understanding and back to our regular programming. Pullleeezzzz.:pray:

Yoda 09-29-2006 09:02 AM

Right Elbow Loading Redux
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by patrick burke

How Does A Hitter Load The Right Elbow During Startdown??

Patrick,

Please see my posts #15, #19 and #28 in this thread http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...?t=1989&page=2.

You should find the answer to to your question there. If not, post again! :)

Yoda 09-29-2006 09:06 AM

Coophitter Returns
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coophitter

I think if a Hitter follows Kelley's advice and employs the advantage that a Hitter may end his backstroke when the right elbow becomes bent, then a Hitter can grip it tight and hit as hard as he can with his right arm while keeping his body steady. Shorten the stroke, still the body, and deliver Tommy Armour's (bent back) right handed smash!

Welcome back, Coop. Been missin' ya! :salut:

BlackjackNY 09-29-2006 05:52 PM

Yep!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coophitter
I think if a Hitter follows Kelley's advice and employs the advantage that a Hitter may end his backstroke when the right elbow becomes bent, then a Hitter can grip it tight and hit as hard as he can with his right arm while keeping his body steady. Shorten the stroke, still the body, and deliver Tommy Armour's (bent back) right handed smash!


I've been finding(for me, anyway) that keeping the body still is paramount in my hit. Looks like yoga(to loosen up the back and neck) and balance ball swings are the order for over the winter...


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