I hear you well there. What keeps ringing in my head--" drive or throw the entire right forearm through impact not just your hand" (may not be exact quote). Got to force yourself to do this because it's not easy. much easier to throw the hand and take a picture of the shaft bowing forward.

HB

And make sure that the right shoulder is close enough to the ball at the start of the DS, so as to not to run out of right arm. Letting go with pp#1 is the only way to avoid "chaining the handle" because of a right shoulder which is too high.

Define "too high" and at what point in the downstroke?

Just my thinking/opinion the short answer is "Wherever the hands direct the shoulder." The longer answer includes "keep the shoulder not only back but down and moveing with great precission.." (not an exact quote again) - Chapter #13 could be hundreds of pages, but for what reason?

HB

Right Shoulder motion must be precise and comply with the plane and handpath selected...otherwise...trainwreck....different release types and plane angles will produce different shoulder motions....so if you say "too high" or "too low" .... in relationship to what? Lots of variables that must be matched...that's the way i see it anyhow.

So far from the ball that you run out of right arm bend at impact. :confused:

You said "And make sure that the right shoulder is close enough to the ball at the start of the DS, so as to not to run out of right arm. "

I thought you were talking about the start of the downstroke not impact?:eyes:

How could you run out of right arm at the start of the DS? :confused1

Impact is the only place where you can run out of right arm.

Joe, unfortunately, I've seen a couple of videos lately where they are trying to have you feel that #1 is releasing completely at the start of the downstroke. They show the right arm getting straight right away. Running out of right arm before you even have the shaft parallel to the ground. Sad but true...

Kevin

Good grief! :shock: