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chipingguru 02-10-2011 12:09 AM

We talking height or distanc. Lee Buck could hit it high when he wanted, but not as long as jack.

Whats that got to do with axis tilt? That simply allows the power package to be delivered at the right location. Anyone worth a damn has some, but it is not true IMO that the more the better, or the farther.

scottcuban 02-10-2011 12:16 AM

With all due respect, between the late 1960's and early-mid 1970's, Lee didn't play in 5 or 6 Masters (which was during the prime of his career).
We will never know what would have happened had he played, but after watching Lee during those years, I think it is safe to say he certainly could have won at least one Masters.
Is there any doubt that he was one of the game's great players?

scottcuban 02-10-2011 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by chipingguru (Post 82252)
We talking height or distanc. Lee Buck could hit it high when he wanted, but not as long as jack.

Whats that got to do with axis tilt? That simply allows the power package to be delivered at the right location. Anyone worth a damn has some, but it is not true IMO that the more the better, or the farther.

It always makes me smile when the distance of certain players is mentioned. We all want to bomb it and we love seeing the long drive but history has shown us that hitting it long does not make you a winner and hitting it short does not make you a loser.

12 piece bucket 02-10-2011 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by scottcuban (Post 82253)
With all due respect, between the late 1960's and early-mid 1970's, Lee didn't play in 5 or 6 Masters (which was during the prime of his career).
We will never know what would have happened had he played, but after watching Lee during those years, I think it is safe to say he certainly could have won at least one Masters.
Is there any doubt that he was one of the game's great players?

I am probably the biggest lee buck fan on the forum. You can check my posts on that. But the question is WHY didn't he play? Jack wasn't even close to lee buck with hitting wedges.....that is because his action was different. But Jack could launch it high. I think lee was a better ball striker no question but Jack could do some things lee would have a difficult time doing with his action.

A recent example is zach Johnson .... Great player but action not conducive to launching it

scottcuban 02-10-2011 07:49 AM

I agree with that, Jack was arguably the greatest ever.
As for Trevino not playing in the Masters, Lee said he never played because of perceived unwelcomeness of minorities from the Augusta Club. He did say in his later years that he regretted the decision not play.

12 piece bucket 02-10-2011 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by scottcuban (Post 82261)
I agree with that, Jack was arguably the greatest ever.
As for Trevino not playing in the Masters, Lee said he never played because of perceived unwelcomeness of minorities from the Augusta Club. He did say in his later years that he regretted the decision not play.

I have also read that he didn't play because the course didn't suit his game . . . . who knows . . . I just know that if somebody said you can pick between jack and lee to hit the ball with in 5 feet with a short iron to save your life . . . I pick lee . . . but if it's a 1 iron . . . jack . . . different actions . . . not saying one is bad . . . just different.

Mike O 02-10-2011 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 82260)
I am probably the biggest lee buck fan on the forum. You can check my posts on that.

Sorry but I don't have time to go through 4,000 posts - :salut:

scottcuban 02-10-2011 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 82262)
I have also read that he didn't play because the course didn't suit his game . . . . who knows . . . I just know that if somebody said you can pick between jack and lee to hit the ball with in 5 feet with a short iron to save your life . . . I pick lee . . . but if it's a 1 iron . . . jack . . . different actions . . . not saying one is bad . . . just different.

Couldn't agree more, either one would be a great choice with a short iron/wedge.
Jack was probably the best long iron player that I have ever seen play, especially under pressure. The trajectory and ball flight was a thing of beauty.

BerntR 02-10-2011 11:15 AM

I watched a bunch of interviews with Lee Trevino a while ago. Regarding one of the majors when he beat Jack down the stretch (I don't remember which) he talked about his low ball flight and that on this particular tournament and final day(s) the greens were very receptive and could hold his low ball. He said that he knew then that he had a really good chance to beat Jack and he succceeded.

So Lee couldn't hit the ball high anytime the situation called for it. At least not with the same degree of precision as he had when he hit it low.

gmbtempe 02-10-2011 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 82260)

A recent example is zach Johnson .... Great player but action not conducive to launching it

Good thing Johnson did not skip the master, short and low ball hitter and all. :eyes:


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