Originally Posted by Trig (Post 52276)

I suspect it is because I'm not rolling hard enough as Baggger mentioned. I need a lot of work on this, it's all new to my motion.

Originally Posted by bambam (Post 52275)

Out of curiosity, are you thinking about tracing or anything else when you are working on this or is your focus mainly on the startup swivel?

'Just' trust it.

Originally Posted by 6bmike (Post 52268)

I only move my Hands and to a lesser degree my right elbow but I never give much thought to what actively rotating my forearms- they respond to the Hand's task. The RFT is still the PPs tracing a plane line.

Impact problem? I'm a firm believer that impact is only half a hinge action, perhaps even a form of steering if done half way- think beyond impact and fully finished the intended hinge motion properly.

Originally Posted by Trig (Post 52276)

Bagger really showed me to things. One was the feeling of the right wrist at start-up and then also how to fan the club to the top. It feels very strange to me. It feels like I must be opening the clubface wide but when checking the mirror it is dead on plane. I played again today and had my partner watch it and he confirmed it is dead on plane at the top. So I know what that feels like now and will get used to it. I struggled more today with the rolling through impact and pushed many shots right. I suspect it is because I'm not rolling hard enough as Baggger mentioned. I need a lot of work on this, it's all new to my motion.

Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 52282)

This is interesting stuff. I have heard so many pros who are on a hot streak say something like, "I can now fully release the club without worrying about hooking it".

We LBG followers might take their "release" to really mean horizontal hinging with an undisturbed down and out club head orbit as opposed to steering, in our terms.

Originally Posted by Bagger Lance (Post 52097)

Right you are rwh. A few weeks ago when I visited the swamp I was hitting my normal volume of swampballs (400-500) while Yoda was giving a lesson. As I was admiring OBLeft's swing, Lynn walked up to me during a break and asked, "Hey Bagger, so are you hitting now?".

No says I. Still swinging.

He asked me to go to the top of my swing, adjusted my wrists into a correct position and said, "this is where you need to be". He's had me working on start up in the past but I had bigger issues to deal with at the time.

Later in the day I visited Steve Ferguson, GSEB who teaches along side Ted and Lynn. He had a shiny new HG Driver and I asked to take a few swings with it. I took one swing and he said, "hold on right there". He grabbed his camera and set me up for some video. He pointed out the same thing Lynn was seeing. My clubshaft was cross-line at the top and the clubface was closed to the sky. :-&

Five minutes later Steve had me doing start-up swivel drills. He said, "Fan it, Fan it as hard as you can at startup, you can't fan it enough". Note to the reader, this is clubface fanning while tracing a straight planeline, not taking it inside at startup. It took me about 5 swings of hitting pushed right shots until we figured out that the lack of a start up swivel has created very little roll in my release. So once I started rolling everything came together.

Its amazing what that little start up motion does to every section of the swing. Over the years Lynn has taken me from stance, to pivot, to arms, and now to hands. The final missing pieces of my swing are finally coming together.

Originally Posted by EdZ (Post 52300)

One of the best examples on tour - Anthony Kim.

A move very similar to Hogan in many ways.

I thought I was watching Jeff's pre-shot there for a minute! :)

Originally Posted by Bagger Lance (Post 52303)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VdXL...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpYkl9SEsHI&NR=1