Thank you tongzilla and Peter Croker for your valueable answer.

I really want to hear the answer from Mathew , ChrstNZ , 12 piece bucket and others too.

That's a Big 10-4 on that Able Baker! Thanks again!

OK,

It seems to me that a compensation could be defined as something that needs to be changed back in the swing, that needn't have been changed in the first place. So for example getting off plane requires a compensation - getting back on plane.

The problem is with the second part of the definition - what changes are necessary (obviously we have to take the club away from the ball!) If we could keep the right forearm on plane the whole way through the swing that would be great, as it would never need to refind the plane - unfortunately anatomy doesn't allow this. So there is anatomical necessities. But at a different level there are also power necessities, and ease-of-use necessities. Some might argue that in order for some people to have an effective golf stroke you need a bit of head movement etc.

So I think an uncompensated swing is a swing, that for the purposes at hand, has the least amount of unnecessary movements, which later require correcting movements.

In terms of alignments this would include:
a stable grip (which allows)
correct flying wedge alignments
a steady pivot centre
an onplane right shoulder in the downstroke at least (probably in the backstroke too if you could manage it and it didn't stuff your swing up too bad), for as long as your anatomy can manage it (those with shoulders fused in the shape of a T take note!)
a constantly straight left arm (if that counts as an alignment)


At a secondary level there would also need to be movements that don't require disruption of the above - such as a tracing a straight plane line, onplane right forearm at impact and so on.

Chris

The problem is that to boil it down to things you must monitor, that just about every alignment is just as important as the other in a true precision golf stroke - hence uncompensated otherwise your relying on acceptable ignorance. The golf stroke is very complex and people aren't treating it as such. Even here I think we are getting to a plateau where people are churning out the same answers rather than actually thinking about them. I just wish that people would think and imagine it. What if you sat down in silent meditation and closed your eyes and thought hard about what you where doing for 10 minutes a day and imagined in your head the motion. It will be very foggy to begin with - but the more you do it, the more that things will become clear. Its the difference between knowing a few quotes and knowing what your talking about. Its like a house of cards - solid from an angle yet once you peer beyond the surface the thinness reveals itself. It is amazing when talking to Lynn how indepth his knowledge is and that he has reached a state where he has transcended to understand the golf stroke far beyond what is directly written in the book... He has the complete picture and he didn't get there by just memorising it. Get out there and Learn, think and imagine....

However a good list is the mechanical checklist in 12-3. Homer was superb at organizing information for usefulness- one of the elements of his genious and it would be folly to try differently or to pick one alignment over another. The no.1 alignment is the flat left wrist but to understand that, then you'll have to understand the flying wedges..etc etc etc

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sorry, couldn't resist!

You and Tonzilla can keep churning... :eyes:

Hows the cards ?

I think if you want to go any deeper than the 3 Imperatives . . . then 1-L is where you want to look.

This sums it up for me in a nutshell . . .

1-L #10 THE LEVER ASSEMBLY MUST BE DRIVEN THROUGH IMPACT BY AN ON PLANE FORCE (MOVING TOWARD THE PLANE LINE).

To me that is the ultimate rule that the "uncompensated" stroke would need to comply with . . . which of course leaves many options as I think Mr. K would like.

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