I think the key factor is if the ball is before or after low point. The mechanics dictate that, prior to lowpoint in a non compensating stroke, the ball will be hit in a downward angle, correct?

However, I am sure Homer was aware that more roll would be gained by hitting 'up' on the ball.

Comments?

No offense, but don't hijack this thread.

If you want to start an arguement about hitting up or down with a driver, start a new one.

Jim,

Sounds like you know the book pretty well...I won't include the sentence with the driver but at least the comment about hitting up by Homer should be included in this thread.

Homer from 2-J-2......"Hitting "up" produces Duffers. And almost all Topped Shots."

DG

Moderators please feel free to move this discussion to where it belongs.

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With a Flat Left Wrist and Ball placed before Low Point, it is not possible to 'hit up'. I hope everyone agrees with that.

There are two types of hitting up:

1) Duffer's Type -- e.g. Bent Left Wrist procedure.

2) Hitting up with a Flat Left Wrist with the ball placed after Low Point and prior to Full Extension of the Lever Assembly.

Thanks Tong, but I think we are still relatively on topic. For drives, a optimal launch/lowspin shot would provide max carry. Fairway conditions are the biggest determinate on roll.

I doubt there is a pro on tour that doesn't spend a great deal of time getting the right equipment combination for the above.

For those interested in hitting up vs. down, I would encourage a search on this forum for topic information. Include the archives, there is a wealth of good information.

Bagger

Delaware....i know what i know from brian and the wonderful people on the forums just like you.

I just know from prior experience how HEATED the whole up/down debate can get and i didn't want it to ruin a rather productive thread.

DG,
The club in both photos is below the ball 6 inches before contact. The club cannot possibly go lower without taking a huge divot and skymarking the club.

With the newer HUGE driver heads, some things have changed. What changed? Ball position, not the Geometry of the Circle. As Phillygolf tried to point out, the integrity of the circle and low point remains the same regardless of ball location. This is important.

Even master Yoda made mention of this ball positon to low point refernce with teed balls - might find it at Manzella's hide-away.