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Daryl 01-24-2011 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wedgy (Post 81781)
It's new to Daryl. They came to the wrong conclusion due to the camera's, the shaft is not in that position at that time in the d.s.

New to Daryl? :laughing9

It's obvious that you can't add to the Pot. Keep stirring.

Daryl 01-24-2011 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chipingguru (Post 81778)
I haven't seen "shaft lean" create this kind of controversey since my college days.:laughing1

I don't care much which way he Shaft Leans, that's a matter of the Right Forearm Flying Wedge and the Angle of Approach. But Clubhead Lag technique should be important to everyone and so it should be learned.

Quote:

6-C-2-A THE ESSENCE of Clubhead Lag technique is that it is always both Aiming AND Thrust. Passive – it is primarily Aiming the Lag Pressure. Active – it is the primarily Thrusting the Lag Pressure Point. The Orbiting Clubhead does not seek out the Ball – it seeks out the Delivery Line. But never directly – only via the Right Forearm and the #3 Pressure Point per 2-F, 5-0 and 7-3. It is guided along that Line to the Both Arms Straight configuration by the straight line thrust of the #3 Pressure Point toward the Angle of Approach quadrant of the Ball – or Aiming Point – per 1-F, 1-L-9/10, 2-J-3 and 6-E-2.

The Clubshaft is stressed by the weight of the Clubhead resisting a change in its direction or velocity – which is Acceleration. Acceleration bends the Clubshaft during Radial Acceleration (10-19-A). Change of direction bends it during Longitudinal Acceleration (10-19-C) which may be, or just include, the Clubhead Lag Pressure Point in addition to its main function of Acceleration Control. From Putter to Driver, the Clubhead Lag technique is indispensable.

If the Pressure Point pressure that produced the initial Clubshaft flex is maintained it will maintain the flex also. So the pressure will be a steady smooth Thrust form the entire Power Package Assembly, and will produce a constant rate of acceleration of the Primary Lever Assembly. If the Pivot moves the Right Shoulder at the same speed as the Power Package – or Primary Lever Assembly – the Accumulators will not be Released by this action until the Right Elbow can straighten. Even then the Clubhead Lag is still maintained – it has NO Release Point. Establish a “normal” Right Wrist Bend for Release – either frozen at some point, or moving from Maximum to Minimum Bend as the Ball Location is moved away from Low Point and/or the Basic Stroke changes the Elbow location (10-3) – because the Right Wrist Bend, along with Ball Location and Plane Angle determine the precise RIGHT FOREARM ANGLE OF APPROACH (7-3).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grPpp...ayer_embedded#!

wedgy 01-24-2011 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 81787)
New to Daryl? :laughing9

It's obvious that you can't add to the Pot. Keep stirring.


Clubhead maintaining it's lag through the impact interval is your statement, it's incorrect period, you need to re-educate yourself on what is really going on in the swing as it's obvious you have no clue.:laughing9 :laughing9 :laughing9

innercityteacher 01-24-2011 08:20 PM

Questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wedgy (Post 81790)
Clubhead maintaining it's lag through the impact interval is your statement, it's incorrect period, you need to re-educate yourself on what is really going on in the swing as it's obvious you have no clue.:laughing9 :laughing9 :laughing9

Wedgy, what is there about your posts that would lead anyone to believe you are well-intentioned.? You make a point or two and then insult and deride Daryl. There is a ton of evidence that Daryl has forgotten more about the golf swing than you or I know.

Let's just say, and I'm pretending here, that Daryl is wrong and you are right. Who are you going to convince by being mean-spirited? If you are convinced you are correct, why not try to help us all see it with a thoughtful presentation.

Maybe you, OB, and Daryl are all correct but using different terms and seeing things from different perspectives.

What makes you think you have the weight to slam another human being?

Now, people get short tempered as we all know, including me, and including Daryl. But responding with the same mistake helps nothing. :(

That's it for you! I want you to apologize to Daryl and shake hands in a mature fashion. OB, you are to be punished by watching the press conference announcement that Roy Halliday was traded to the Philadelphia Phillies by the Toronto Blue Jays. Daryl, your punishment is to watch replays of Jay Cutler mope around the sideline, yesterday, and that fool interfere with the foul ball that cost the Cubs a trip to the Series.

Wedgie, I don't know anything about you, yet, but we will be gathering data with which to hurt your feelings, slowly. I think we can start by having you read all my posts! :)

ICT

Bagger Lance 01-24-2011 08:36 PM

A lagging discussion
 
Lessee - Yoda has asked to keep it civil, others would like to keep it civil.

I'll ask Daryl and Wedgie as well. If ya can't, I guess you'll have to put each other on ignore. But it would be nice to have you participate.

Differing opinions are welcome, but we have to change the tone. Internet communications are one of the worst. I think tin cans and strings would be more effective. Its impossible to know the "attitude" behind posts. It's why we have the smiley guys.

Carry on.:)
BTW, check out the lag and shaft bend on my smiley golf guy.:golf:

wedgy 01-24-2011 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 81797)
Wedgy, what is there about your posts that would lead anyone to believe you are well-intentioned.? You make a point or two and then insult and deride Daryl. There is a ton of evidence that Daryl has forgotten more about the golf swing than you or I know.

Let's just say, and I'm pretending here, that Daryl is wrong and you are right. who are you going to convince by being mean-spirited? If you are convinced you are correct, why not try to help us all see it with a thoughtful presentation.

Maybe you, OB, and Daryl are all correct but using different terms and seeing things from different perspectives.

What makes you think you have the weight to slam another human being?

If you had the gravitas, you'd have the thoughtfulness to bring someone else to the light.

Now, people get short tempered as we all know, including me, and including Daryl. But responding with the same mistake helps nothing. :(

ICT


If you go back and read the posts it was Daryl who insulted me first by calling me an idiot and a dweeb etc. so i responded in kind i will defend myself from uncalled for insults, instead of discussing this statement of his and explaining with credible proof or providing his reason in this belief he just attacked with insults, hardly a way to treat another human being wouldn't you agree, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

innercityteacher 01-24-2011 09:01 PM

I lightened my response up, Wedge.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wedgy (Post 81799)
If you go back and read the posts it was Daryl who insulted me first by calling me an idiot and a dweeb etc. so i responded in kind i will defend myself from uncalled for insults, instead of discussing this statement of his and explaining with credible proof or providing his reason in this belief he just attacked with insults, hardly a way to treat another human being wouldn't you agree, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

The dog had to go out and took 30 minutes to do her business. I meant to put the funnier stuff in but got side-tracked. Don't get upset. I think you'll find my edit funnier. Good luck! :)

ICT

O.B.Left 01-24-2011 09:30 PM

Daryl brings up a good question. Namely, how do we regard this quote below in the light of Lynn's story about Homer discussing the forward bending shaft seen in Release.

And what about the Drag Loader who Rotates his Lag Pressure Point (knuckle to first joint) what are the implications to shaft bend? Two different bends , one for longitudinal (knuckle) one for radial (first joint)? That'd make sense. Does constant lag pressure really mean constant bend, no kick?

A Drive Loader who accelerates Radially would only bend it one way ,not including toe down, maybe?

Quote:


Quote:
6-C-2-A THE ESSENCE of Clubhead Lag technique is that it is always both Aiming AND Thrust. Passive – it is primarily Aiming the Lag Pressure. Active – it is the primarily Thrusting the Lag Pressure Point. The Orbiting Clubhead does not seek out the Ball – it seeks out the Delivery Line. But never directly – only via the Right Forearm and the #3 Pressure Point per 2-F, 5-0 and 7-3. It is guided along that Line to the Both Arms Straight configuration by the straight line thrust of the #3 Pressure Point toward the Angle of Approach quadrant of the Ball – or Aiming Point – per 1-F, 1-L-9/10, 2-J-3 and 6-E-2.

The Clubshaft is stressed by the weight of the Clubhead resisting a change in its direction or velocity – which is Acceleration. Acceleration bends the Clubshaft during Radial Acceleration (10-19-A). Change of direction bends it during Longitudinal Acceleration (10-19-C) which may be, or just include, the Clubhead Lag Pressure Point in addition to its main function of Acceleration Control. From Putter to Driver, the Clubhead Lag technique is indispensable.

If the Pressure Point pressure that produced the initial Clubshaft flex is maintained it will maintain the flex also. So the pressure will be a steady smooth Thrust form the entire Power Package Assembly, and will produce a constant rate of acceleration of the Primary Lever Assembly. If the Pivot moves the Right Shoulder at the same speed as the Power Package – or Primary Lever Assembly – the Accumulators will not be Released by this action until the Right Elbow can straighten. Even then the Clubhead Lag is still maintained – it has NO Release Point. Establish a “normal” Right Wrist Bend for Release – either frozen at some point, or moving from Maximum to Minimum Bend as the Ball Location is moved away from Low Point and/or the Basic Stroke changes the Elbow location (10-3) – because the Right Wrist Bend, along with Ball Location and Plane Angle determine the precise RIGHT FOREARM ANGLE OF APPROACH (7-3).

wedgy 01-24-2011 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 81800)
The dog had to go out and took 30 minutes to do her business. I meant to put the funnier stuff in but got side-tracked. Don't get upset. I think you'll find my edit funnier. Good luck! :)

ICT


I'm over it, and all the best to you.

wedgy 01-24-2011 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagger Lance (Post 81798)
Lessee - Yoda has asked to keep it civil, others would like to keep it civil.

I'll ask Daryl and Wedgie as well. If ya can't, I guess you'll have to put each other on ignore. But it would be nice to have you participate.

Differing opinions are welcome, but we have to change the tone. Internet communications are one of the worst. I think tin cans and strings would be more effective. Its impossible to know the "attitude" behind posts. It's why we have the smiley guys.

Carry on.:)
BTW, check out the lag and shaft bend on my smiley golf guy.:golf:


I'm on board :salut: and that smiley guy is out of control does he ever get tired...lol.


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