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Old 10-04-2010, 01:10 AM
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Again Id say these sorts of debates are a matter of definition. I agree with a lot of your points , on their own but ...... lets discuss the merits of Homer's insights using the terminology as he defined it. Its pointless otherwise.


Originally Posted by BerntR View Post
I really think this swinging vs hitting is one of the weak points in TGM.


I really mean "is". For anyone who has hopes of breaking 200 on a par 72 course. But show me a hitter who doesnt rotate his left shoulder. Or a hitter who has so little drag that he really doesn't need his left arm ..... but I don't think you can.
Where does Homer say a Hitter doesnt rotate his left shoulder? Or need his left arm? Even in Drive Loading, 12-1-0 its 12-A Standard Pivot.

Drive Loading doesnt zero out the Pivot in Total Motion its a means of transporting , delivering the power package to the Release Point for all but Full Sweep Release. If thats what you define as "pulling" then we're operating under different definitions. Your "pulling" including Pivot motion or work. There's a big difference. Pivot motion doesnt load the knuckle, simply put. Doesnt bend the shaft along the bottom/top. But pivot work does.

I agree with you on the visual similarity between Swinging and Hitting for some players , Yoda for instance. I cant tell the difference unless he (as he sometimes likes to do) adopts a tell tale 10-2-D grip when Hitting. But he Drag Loads when he Hits and gets darn close to Snap. He's got a lot of Swinging Alignments to his Hitting. These patterns are like a person's signature , they're unique although the components might be shared with another golfer. Two guys named George but with different signatures. I'd never look like Yoda in a million years and it would probably be a useless exercise to attempt it, beautiful though it is. Man I wish though. Who was it that quoted Moe as saying "dont swing like Moe, swing like you." Thats a great quote.

But I can assure you that Yoda in Release uses a different source of thrust with a different direction to the Thrust even when he changes from Hitting to Swinging, similar looking though it may be. Pressure Point #1 is not located on the same spot on the handle as pp#2.

If Yoda put up some 12-1 Drive Loading swings then you'd see a difference between his Hitting and Swinging. Then there'd be less Longitudinal to his Hitting given that procedure.

How can you accelerate Radially and Longitudinally at the same time?

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