Speed Training w/ Speedchain

[bts]

bts,

Looking at the video, its most certainly NOT a pivot controlled hands, or at least your understanding of a PCH is wrong.

It's OK. I'm wrong.

Just wondering what is the swing speed that your "sustain the lag through shoulder rotation" procedure produces.

Thanks

Depends on how fast/slow the shoulders rotate and how much lag they sustain.

It's not just the speed, it's the on-timed speed with acceleration.

[comdpa]

compda, could you share a couple of sudden acceleration of the club exercices using this resistance? Why do i get the feel you might tie a band to the cieling?

Jerome,

No, I have never tied the band to the ceiling.

Research has shown that the body only contributes 10% of power to the golf swing, whereas the speed of the hands and their actions contribute 90% of power.

Further “transferring” your weight from the back foot to the front foot creates only 2mph of body speed – which only increases clubhead speed if your timing is inch perfect.

In exercising for golf my focus is always on the forearms. This practice was further given endorsement by no less than the 2005 REMAX Long Drive Champ, Sean Fister, when he came to visit in September.

His words to me were: "I don't train anything above the elbow joint. Jack Nicklaus said that I have the fastest hand speed of anyone he has ever seen."



Look at the following attached.


This is a very clear view of the anatomy of the forearm. The most important muscles I feel are those that help cock and uncock the wrists and those that help pronate and supinate.
Work on those

I did these exercises plus master the Snap Release 10-24-E only in April of this year and the results have been very very satisfactory.

[comdpa]

It's OK. I'm wrong.

Depends on how fast/slow the shoulders rotate and how much lag they sustain.

It's not just the speed, it's the on-timed speed with acceleration.

Do you have a video to share with us?

[Mike O]

Jerome,

No, I have never tied the band to the ceiling.

Research has shown that the body only contributes 10% of power to the golf swing, whereas the speed of the hands and their actions contribute 90% of power.

Further “transferring” your weight from the back foot to the front foot creates only 2mph of body speed – which only increases clubhead speed if your timing is inch perfect.

In exercising for golf my focus is always on the forearms. This practice was further given endorsement by no less than the 2005 REMAX Long Drive Champ, Sean Fister, when he came to visit in September.

His words to me were: "I don't train anything above the elbow joint. Jack Nicklaus said that I have the fastest hand speed of anyone he has ever seen."



Look at the following attached.


This is a very clear view of the anatomy of the forearm. The most important muscles I feel are those that help cock and uncock the wrists and those that help pronate and supinate.
Work on those

I did these exercises plus master the Snap Release 10-24-E only in April of this year and the results have been very very satisfactory.

Indeed the muscles you pointed out would cock and uncock the wrists and pronate and supinate. Although muscles of the upper arm would also help in pronation and supination of the forearm- so if you were trying to strengthen those- then you would want to also strengthen the upper arm muscles. However, none of the muscles that you described would move the hands faster through space. So to me, Sean's quote is just another quote that doesn't make any sense or is very unclear.

[nuke99]

Comdpa is like the Bruise Lee of Golf ...

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[comdpa]

Indeed the muscles you pointed out would cock and uncock the wrists and pronate and supinate. Although muscles of the upper arm would also help in pronation and supination of the forearm- so if you were trying to strengthen those- then you would want to also strengthen the upper arm muscles. However, none of the muscles that you described would move the hands faster through space. So to me, Sean's quote is just another quote that doesn't make any sense or is very unclear.

Sorry Mike,

When he related Jack Nicklaus' compliment, he was uncocking and rolling his hands - very quickly.

To him , handspeed was the sequenced release of the swinger - uncock and roll.
That said, I agree with you on the role of the upper arm but I still do not completely understand its role in producing clubheadspeed thus have not began isolating them in training yet. I will be most keen to share once I reach a conclusion.

One thing that stuck in my mind about Sean was the size of his Extensor carpi radialis longus and his Pronator teres. They resembled sausages.

[powerdraw]

thanks justin, interesting.

[trainchain]

What are the merits of this training aid over the speedstik?

Not to mention the swing mechanics benefits, but from a pure speed standpoint:

The speedstick, momentus, and weighted clubs are isotonic or "dead weight" devices. Meaning when one swings them, on the downswing their own inertia plus gravity is assisting on the downswing. They are probably ok for strength but not real effective for speed IMO. They also fail to meet the 4 laws of specificity for speed training.

Contrast those with the SC. The SC is a variable weight resistance device which provides an overload/resistance on the crucial start of the downswing and thru the impact zone. And it can be swung extremely fast. Much faster than weighted clubs and the speedstick. It is the only training device I know of that meets the 4 laws of specificity for speed training.

Hope this helps.

[trainchain]

Sorry...this is a fad type of training aid...no way will this catch on. No way will you find me in my backyard swinging something like that...I'll scare the neighbors, the birds, all of mother nature, holy cow. This is not an indoors training aid for the average home owner either.

DG

This same fad and concept of the chains is being used in the Olympic Training Center by Vinny Comiskey who is the head of Sports Medicine. Also, we have many Professional Golf Instructors using it in their teaching programs. A number of Long Drive guys including the BEAST also. A couple of tour players thus far that we know of. It is catching on but from a slower grass roots type of approach.

[Mike O]

Sorry Mike,

When he related Jack Nicklaus' compliment, he was uncocking and rolling his hands - very quickly.

To him , handspeed was the sequenced release of the swinger - uncock and roll.
That said, I agree with you on the role of the upper arm but I still do not completely understand its role in producing clubheadspeed thus have not began isolating them in training yet. I will be most keen to share once I reach a conclusion.

One thing that stuck in my mind about Sean was the size of his Extensor carpi radialis longus and his Pronator teres. They resembled sausages.

There is a rhythm to centrifugal force- trying to make it go faster really isn't a viable option. Training "just" the muscles below the elbow- doesn't make any sense at all. Finally, could you identify the research that says the body only provides 10% and also that the transferring of the weight only 2% because both of those "facts" are much like training the muscles just below the elbow- they don't take into account the entire context of the movement. Anotherwords- if I didn't transfer my weight and hit off my back foot- I really wouldn't lose any power?