I Had an Amazing Practice today!!!! But I still have a quesetion.

[nuke99]

you could think of it more as a Slinging Back Hand Slap . . .

Sling and slap.. Someone Getting Kinky !!

Score 1 Vs 1

/wink

[danny_shank]

Thanks for the reply Bucket, that left arm slap certainly is a powerful image.

But i'm still having trouble getting it.
I can't see how this would change the natural tendancy to uncock down the plane of the left arm?

[birdie_man]

Analogies aside...pro examples aside....

I am a left shoulder guy...

It works for me....

My ballstriking falls apart if I TRY to drive my right shoulder....I hit it much better pulling with the left side.....left shoulder up and back has been my thought for a while now....

I understand what the right shoulder HAS TO do....and will never dispute that role...

But I accomplish it (and for me, more efficiently) like this.

My thinking (personally) is just that if I'm supposed to be PULLING (I am a Swinger)....I should be doing just that....pulling.....and to me, pulling is not done as efficiently with the right shoulder. (to me, and for me)

...

Then again, we should all be open to everything....try everything....and USE what works best. (for yourself, as an individual)

[12 piece bucket]

Thanks for the reply Bucket, that left arm slap certainly is a powerful image.

But i'm still having trouble getting it.
I can't see how this would change the natural tendancy to uncock down the plane of the left arm?

Can you ask your question again? You DO Uncock down the plane of the Left Arm . . . that is the Left Arm Flying Wedge . . .so you are correct . . .

So as a swinger you UNCOCK (Karate Chop) then ROLL (Slap) as your left wrist is moving to fully Uncocked. This is all done via CF . . .if you allow it to happen.

A more powerful image for you may be to check out the thread on Endless Belt . . . Yoda has some great images of the belt.

[danny_shank]

I always suspected but now i know i am completely stupid...

[Mathew]

Hey Mathew,

Does the left arm karate chop that seems to be often recommended for swingers have the same problem then?

Its something that i've always struggled to understand because if the left arm is the power source (for the swinger) then it seems natural to uncock down its plane. Any advice on how not to fall into that trap?

Cheers,

Danny

A karate chop is a strike made with the heel of the hand which in golf is thrust by the pivot towards a point on the plane line. It is a strike towards the plane line and not a strike gliding along the plane line. This is trying to control the clubhead orbit with the left arm which is a big no no in golf. It is the downstroke prior to the release motions maintaining the palm directly towards the inclined plane.

However this karate chop strike towards the plane line is guided via the clubhead control of the right hand or specifically pp3 drawing a straight line of thrust towards an aiming point after you adjust yourself in a position to do so (top arc).

[Sonic_Doom]

A karate chop is a strike made with the heel of the hand which in golf is thrust by the pivot towards a point on the plane line. It is a strike towards the plane line and not a strike gliding along the plane line. This is trying to control the clubhead orbit with the left arm which is a big no no in golf. It is the downstroke prior to the release motions maintaining the palm directly towards the inclined plane.

However this karate chop strike towards the plane line is guided via the clubhead control of the right hand or specifically pp3 drawing a straight line of thrust towards an aiming point after you adjust yourself in a position to do so (top arc).

Why is trying to control the clubhead orbit with the left arm a no-no? Because of its offplane position during release/impact?
What's wrong with maintaining the left arm flying wedge?

CW

[Mathew]

Why is trying to control the clubhead orbit with the left arm a no-no? Because of its offplane position during release/impact?
What's wrong with maintaining the left arm flying wedge?

CW

The left arm is always offplane - until followthrough. The left arm/hand has no direct control over the clubhead because of it.

I never said that you destroy the left arm flying wedge - I am merely stating the FACTS that it has to comply with - namely the inclined plane....

A frisbee is thrown on the plane of the arm - it does describe longitundinal acceleration in relation to the inclined plane. It however is not an accurate description of the motion.

[danny_shank]

Cheers for that Mathew, i think i'm getting a better understanding of that now.

[Mathew]

Thanks Danny

Just one thing I would like to add that I think I should of mentioned also. Is when preforming a karate chop - when the hand is turned towards the plane - the motion the hand is going to accelerate is parallel to the plane line.

In this context you could say you are preforming a karate chop along the plane line - it is not right to say it in the context of along in the sence of directly pointing towards the plane line....ie frisbee toss.