Backstroke Pics
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08-20-2005, 10:12 AM
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Clampett
This must have been when Bobby Clampett was using a Snap Load. I saw him at the U.S. Open on T.V. a few years ago, and recently on an infomercial for a golf club... and he was more Random.
His right arm is still straight in the picture. Is that how most of you would be if you use Snap?
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08-20-2005, 02:09 PM
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Clampett...Jones...Snead...O'Grady...Waite
Woods...O'Meara...Howell III...Faldo...Hoch...
I took the footage of Waite and Howell at the 1999 Michelob Championship at Kingsmill...My former partner in crime "Scooter" took the footage of O'Meara, Faldo, and Hoch at The 1999 USOPEN at Pinehurst No.2 when I was working with Clearwater...
The whole purpose of this layout is to demonstrate the different plane angle variations with the corresponding hand paths and the relationship of the left arm to the baseline...
I would strongly recommend studying the different amounts of shoulder trun, hip turn, leg action, etc...it will reveal may different relationships for strokes made from different backstroke plane angles...perhaps study the "MorePics"....
I have plenty of more "stuff" to share...
I'm using pictures rather than words because I feel they speak volumes more than the mere description of words...
But words with Pictues...
Powerful....
Do what the words and the pictures mean...
Now we're talking another level....
Your learning will get exciting....
Skywalker
PS. I have video footage of Bobby using Snap, Random and Full Sweep at different points of his career...
He is truly....a walking experiment!!!
Great Guy too!!!
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08-23-2005, 10:13 AM
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Plane= In Front or Not as much in Front
The guys in the bottom row keep the club, arms, and hands more in the so called FRONT of the body on the Backswing, and also try to do this on the Downswing. They are probably using 10-6-D..."undoubtedly the most widely used Basic Plane Angle"... Turning Shoulder. Look at 10-6-D #2.
Do you think they are using the A or B versions?
Howell may actually use a variation of the 10-7-E.
The guys on the Top row appear to be more on a 10-6-E Hands Plane. They get the arms, club and hands deeper BEHIND them on the backswing. After the Backstroke 9-2-5#2 stage is reached, They then go into one of the Shifts 10-7-O.
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08-23-2005, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
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PS. I have video footage of Bobby using Snap, Random and Full Sweep at different points of his career...
He is truly....a walking experiment!!!
Great Guy too!!!
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My guess is that's why he crapped out on the PGA Tour... |
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08-23-2005, 02:06 PM
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Maybe....Maybe....No...
He experienced personal tragedy in his personal life...
You never know how one will react to a loss!!!
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08-23-2005, 05:40 PM
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Re: Backstroke Pics
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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
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Notice the left knee has moved OUT more in most of the guys in the top row. With the bottom row guys... there is very little light betweem the knees in most of them, especially O'Mera.
Do you think Knee Action is a factor in how much the arms move behind you? If the left knee and left hip move OUT early, do the arms tend to move IN early? What do you think? |
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08-23-2005, 06:04 PM
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Sounds like a balance issue to me.
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"Support the On Plane Swinging Force in Balance"
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Simplicity buffs, see 5-0, 1-L, 2-0 A and B 10-2-B, 4-D, 6B-1D, 6-B-3-0-1, 6-C-1, 6-E-2
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08-23-2005, 08:34 PM
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Lagster...the answer is ...YES....
The human machine must ADJUST to accomodate for the change in the Hand Path...Thus the Plane Angle....
who says....Try reading the "neural Basis of Motor Control by Dr. Vernon Brooks...
It is a tough read , but it is a valid backup doccument to support this post!!!!
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