"The bump" to start downswing
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03-14-2006, 11:20 AM
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"The bump" to start downswing
I have been reading posts concerning drills and members ideas on the bump to start the downswing. My question is: if my hipa are turned 45 to 50 degrees to the right of the target (on the backswing) and then I start my downswing with a bump,does the bump go 45 to 50 degrees right of the target line or do I actually turn as I bump which would then square my hips to the target line??
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03-14-2006, 12:07 PM
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Slide, Then Turn
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Originally Posted by dansch
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I have been reading posts concerning drills and members ideas on the bump to start the downswing. My question is: if my hipa are turned 45 to 50 degrees to the right of the target (on the backswing) and then I start my downswing with a bump,does the bump go 45 to 50 degrees right of the target line or do I actually turn as I bump which would then square my hips to the target line??
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Dan,
The 'bump' is a Hip Slide with a Delayed Turn. Its purpose is to Shift the Weight and tilt the Spine -- the Axis for the On Plane Downstroke Shoulder Turn. Prior to the Downstroke Hip Turn, the Slide should be parallel to the selected Delivery Line, i.e., the true Geometric Plane Line (Swingers and Hitters) or the Angle of Approach (Hitters only) [7-12].
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03-14-2006, 12:17 PM
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Which came first the Chicken or the Egg?
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Originally Posted by Yoda
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Dan,
The 'bump' is a Hip Slide with a Delayed Turn. Its purpose is to Shift the Weight and tilt the Spine -- the Axis for the On Plane Downstroke Shoulder Turn. Prior to the Downstroke Hip Turn, the Slide should be parallel to the selected Delivery Line, i.e., the true Geometric Plane Line (Swingers and Hitters) or the Angle of Approach (Hitters only) [7-12].
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Doc,
Is the Hip Slide an INDEPENDENT motion or is it a RESULTANT motion of the intent to move the Right Shoulder Down Plane?
Kinda like do you walk with your feet or do your feet walk because you lean your noggin forward?
Heckifeyeno.
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03-14-2006, 12:41 PM
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Two Chickens And One Egg
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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Is the Hip Slide an INDEPENDENT motion or is it a RESULTANT motion of the intent to move the Right Shoulder Down Plane?
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Both the Hip and Shoulder Turns are the result of the intent to Drive the Hands Down Plane (toward the Ball).
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03-14-2006, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
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Both the Hip and Shoulder Turns are the result of the intent to Drive the Hands Down Plane (toward the Ball).
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Bucket executes a perfectly placed bent right wrist slap upon his FLAT VERTICAL forehead . . . .
And this is why you are the KungFu Master . . . Earth to Bucket . . . "It's hands-controlled pivot you freakin' Mo-ron."
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03-14-2006, 12:57 PM
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Hip Slide
I have been puzzeled by the term clear the right hip. Is it the hip slide that clears the right hip?
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03-14-2006, 01:25 PM
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Clearing the Right Hip
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Originally Posted by CalSr
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I have been puzzeled by the term clear the right hip. Is it the hip slide that clears the right hip?
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Cal,
The Delayed Turn clears the Right Hip prior to or during the Start Up. The Slide clears it from the Top.
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03-14-2006, 04:59 PM
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I wouldn't mind adding another layer into this conversation by discussing the feet and the roles that the hip and foot action play in regards to the Pivot Train.
One of the reason why the Right Anchor, Delayed Hip Turn, Flat Left foot action should be employed because it is the ideal variation, is that if you have standard Knee, Hip action and Foot action - if the backstroke is not halted with the feet, people using this variation cannot use that same tension in the feet that halted the backstroke to launch the pivot train in the downstroke. When good golfers say they like to 'use the ground', but can't explain it, this is what they mean.
The hip action in the downstroke is very much a reaction to this. You cannot think - right, im going to slide here an inch or two and turn... The correct way is to use that tension in your feet per 7-17 to launch the pivot under your stationary head. 'Swinging from the feet' gives your stroke the maximum Swing radius.
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03-14-2006, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mathew
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I wouldn't mind adding another layer into this conversation by discussing the feet and the roles that the hip and foot action play in regards to the Pivot Train.
One of the reason why the Right Anchor, Delayed Hip Turn, Flat Left foot action should be employed because it is the ideal variation, is that if you have standard Knee, Hip action and Foot action - if the backstroke is not halted with the feet, people using this variation cannot use that same tension in the feet that halted the backstroke to launch the pivot train in the downstroke. When good golfers say they like to 'use the ground', but can't explain it, this is what they mean.
The hip action in the downstroke is very much a reaction to this. You cannot think - right, im going to slide here an inch or two and turn... The correct way is to use that tension in your feet per 7-17 to launch the pivot under your stationary head. 'Swinging from the feet' gives your stroke the maximum Swing radius.
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Good post. Do you think you are "using" your feet or are you "feeling" the down-plane force of your hands and right shoulder going into the ground via your feet?
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03-14-2006, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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Good post. Do you think you are "using" your feet or are you "feeling" the down-plane force of your hands and right shoulder going into the ground via your feet?
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The swingers pivot drives and creates a pressure against acc#4 at its associated pressure point(#4). You launch the pivot from the tension in your feet, your pivot (power package transport) moves the hands - specifically monitored by the pressure points - to the aiming point....
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