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Old 02-27-2012, 04:43 PM
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bm powerful trackman wrist flip
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wow...i realize you don't like to get in wars with other forums here on lbg and I respect that so i will keep the comments minimal I just find this amusing, "which wouldn't be a very good dynamic loft on trackman..." LOL is this guy for real? this is truly awful, be thankful there is still a source of good information out there called the golfing machine, that doesn't sell out to golf techno gadget companies

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Old 02-27-2012, 07:36 PM
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Did you watch the entire video? My favorite part is at 6:39 when he introduces the "Yank-up-on-it" procedure which should blend with the "Coupling Point Rotation".

Also, I think he has a very positive attitude and a nice smile.
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Old 02-28-2012, 12:07 AM
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I know a lot of A.I.'s used to teach holding a flat left wrist through to finish (with perhaps a little bending in finish swivel). But did this come from Homers book or from some A.I.s?

Lynn Blake teaches something different. A bent left / flat right in finish swivel , bent left /bent right at finish. Just like you see on tv. In fact Lynn teaches a geometrically flat , flat left wrist at top, which can be different from a literally flat left wrist . Flat at impact? Absolutely. Bent shortly thereafter .... maybe if the shot demands it, a type of short flop shot comes to mind. Intentional throwaway.

Homer said that a lot of pros were in the process of throwing the club away , that they were experts at it. And that so long as the club head did not pass the hands prior to impact , the law of the flail held and the shot was not necessarily lost.

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Old 02-28-2012, 01:25 AM
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the pros do a lot of stuff, besides, the ones that really flick it are in the very minority, homer wasn't so concerned with what they were doing and more concerned with what physics and the golf ball demanded. this is a recipe for disaster for the average golfer "yank up on it" "flick the wrists" "booom" lol. the wrist should only be bent because the wrists swiveled on plane after the follow through for the finish then they are although not visually flat can still be FLAT doesn't mean you should flick them at all, any flicking motion with the left wrist is just producing leakage aka THROWAWAY, not to mention he tells them to have a low angle of attack, so here you go golfers throw your wrists low along the ground and yank up on the ball, GOOD LUCK!

the left wrist is bent at that part in the follow through he refers to in the beginning of the video not because they flicked it usually but because of the positions of the arms and shoulders in relation to the plane at that point in the swing. the left wrist is flat on the plane with the shaft and clubface, it wasn't because you intentionally bent your right wrist through impact. throwaway is throwaway any small amount of it can be tolerated but it should never intentionally be done unless you want compression leakage like on a lob shot

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Old 02-28-2012, 01:39 AM
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Totally agree , maybe I mis communicated. I don't endorse the flick . Common though it is. However I do think that its the flat right hand that is swivelled on to plane in finish swivel, ideally. Thats the alignment or wrist condition for the free flowing flail.

Just pointing out that he's gone from one extreme to another in regard to the flat left wrist and I don't believe he's got it quite right yet. Not then , not now

Learning to Roll a Flat Left Wrist through impact is still the first train out of Hackersville. Delivery Line Roll Prep.

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Old 02-28-2012, 09:19 AM
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4-d
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Does this video show a lack of understanding of the differences between hand motion and wrist motion? TGM chapter 4-D explains well. The hands driven through impact. Using the wrists is "hacking"? Why anyone would TEACH a flick (wrist motion) through impact is a question I would have. Hinging is a hand motion? I think HK had a great understanding of this and is the most important machine concept.

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Old 02-28-2012, 11:09 AM
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Exactly hungrybear
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Old 02-28-2012, 09:01 PM
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Can't imagine this is coming from an ex-GSED. What is in his mind, and intention?
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Old 02-28-2012, 10:08 PM
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sounds like trackman is in his back pocket, let's look at what they are trying to do, they are trying to use trackman data to determine what you're trying to accomplish in the golf swing, trackman is not perfect science it's calculated data based on certain measured information, the fact that they're trying to use trackman as the end all be all of golf ball data is just plain inaccurate. pretty sad what he is doing, purposefully discrediting the teaching system that he made his money on... everyone trying to outsmart homer, good luck.
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Old 02-28-2012, 10:27 PM
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"discrediting the teaching system that he made his money on... everyone trying to outsmart homer, good luck."

Great point, exactly. To name a few: BM, MJ (don't believe in RFT) and JM. Or they want to make money from.
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