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Old 04-22-2010, 08:21 AM
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Aiming point-release type
Aiming point 6-E-2 I need an understanding of this principle. I have essentialy abandoned it because I can not locate it. Original thinkind was that it is "close" to the ball +/- inches. Leads me to throwaway. Delivery line for the hands is way out in front? Release type 10-24 -(0 thru F)I need clarity. Release type changes "progressivly" from chip to total motion. Determined, for me, by the "practice swing", a drag the mop drill has no release. This is leading to inconsistancy. Get the feel corrected at one point and it changes at the next swing "level". Need to find how to select and apply these 2 elements with consistancy. How??

I just posponed a 3 hour session at the range this morning because I need better understanding of these elements . I need to have a plan not just a series of DIFFERENT swings to practice

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Old 04-22-2010, 01:18 PM
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The way I see it you can use an aiming point to aim your thrust or to aim where you want low point to be. Or perhaps both. When I get in throwaway territory I use an aiming point on the plane line - far back in the stance. Perhaps even behind the right foot. That helps me keep more accumulator #4 and also to hold the release longer. I always do this when I try to swing a high draw with an automatic trigger release. It is a sort of mental "straight line delivery path with maximum trigger delay".


When I struggle with weight shift and low point location or when I try to shape the shot I use "the other" aiming point to time the release and low point in a way that helps me get the clubhead path and the club face orientation I need for the stroke at hand.

When I do a non-automatic release I sometimes combine the two.
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Old 04-22-2010, 06:21 PM
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Thanks BerntR

I must report. Decided to go down to a local course and "borrow" a practice green for a little chipin n' puttin. Puttin was ok, needs practice then will be good-to-go. Chipin was, for me, spectacular. Nice low, on line, compression with a sharp check and release on landing. or. throw it in higher and land soft. I was estatic. ALL from TGM and Yoda. I hope this wasn"t just a "career day" because I KNOW I did it right. I even had spectators, some obvious and the, U know, people that know what you are doing and kind of watch under their arm as they pretend to practice.

BUT. Back to why I cancled my planned time at the range and the problems I need to solve.

Aiming Point- I have relook at the DVD drill and the video where Yoda throws the dowel at the aiming point to the Ohs and Ahs of those around, I also found this important post:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...nt#post 35645

The problems for me are: I know it is not possible to draw a straight line with the left arm and only rotating. the setting up parallel lines the slope related to right forearm angle at impact is confusing. First, it would determine location of TOP and second, To me it is the engineering easy solution- given the answer the solution becomes trivial. And I am still left with a guess.

Release type- I think I understand and can execute releases by trial and error for dirrerent swing lengths and/or power levels but I have no system for release type selection. I hope someone else has recognized this problem an found a solution.

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Old 04-22-2010, 10:25 PM
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Old 04-23-2010, 09:56 AM
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I fully agree HungryBear. It is not possible to draw a straight line with the left arm in a golf down stroke.

These delivery lines must be more feel than real. There is a sharp turn by the end of the straight line that interests me. Because that's the point where the Accumulator #2 is released.

I regard the straight line as the part of the delivery path where the longitudinal work should be maximised, and any work that migh trigger the throw out is avoided or at least kept to a minimum.

Just the purest longitudinal pull of the butt end of the club. PP#1 only for drivers. Minimum shaft loading basically. With a snap release you should feel how the load increases quite suddenly when the throw-out starts. And from there on you can't have to much shaft loading. With some practice you should be able to time it deliberately.

With a "straight line" approach you pretty much keep A#2 till your hand have come a long way down towards the ball, and then you either force it to go (non automatic release) or it is forced automatically. I often use aiming point to guide where and when this happens.
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Old 04-23-2010, 01:24 PM
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Thanks BerntR

Let me only comment on what you have said here.

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I fully agree HungryBear. It is not possible to draw a straight line with the left arm in a golf down stroke.

These delivery lines must be more feel than real. There is a sharp turn by the end of the straight line that interests me. Because that's the point where the Accumulator #2 is released.

I regard the straight line as the part of the delivery path where the longitudinal work should be maximised, and any work that migh trigger the throw out is avoided or at least kept to a minimum.

Just the purest longitudinal pull of the butt end of the club. PP#1 only for drivers. Minimum shaft loading basically. With a snap release you should feel how the load increases quite suddenly when the throw-out starts. And from there on you can't have to much shaft loading. With some practice you should be able to time it deliberately.

With a "straight line" approach you pretty much keep A#2 till your hand have come a long way down towards the ball, and then you either force it to go (non automatic release) or it is forced automatically. I often use aiming point to guide where and when this happens.

I have a different elbow position feel for swinging than hitting. I believe Yoda uses the same, at the side , elbow for both swing and hit. I had a problem swinging because I ran out of arm with the at-side so swinging i try and get the right elbow as far down as possible. at release #2 sweetspot on plane, only then does right forearm start to straighten. #2 is uncocking left, straightening right. . at a point (by feel)[after In had traced the plane line many times so I knew where to swivel] I start to swivel left hand vertical to plane. now as I get closer to low point #3 goes on by CF and KEEPS ITSELF vertical and #2 releas slows down. becoming level at low point. as #3 goes around the cf becomes less because #2 is less. I have to do the infront elbow swinging or I become all blocked out. I have a little move that HK never mentions. To prevent premature release I will hook the index finger of the right hand and hold the shaft against #3 (top load before release). All the release points are #3 monitored and I feel the roll top to aft as I go through release swivel.
For me this aiming only works on full swings where there is a period of linear acceleration. And I am always adjusting timing. different releases dependent on power, swing length hitting, swinging I still have no formula or locked in method so it is like invention on every shot . invention by practice swing. Is that the way it shoul be?

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